An Exposé On The Luxury Goods Industry
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whats the fun in showing off how much u spend on a luxury bag?
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Originally posted by Ed11790:
whats the fun in showing off how much u spend on a luxury bag?
Dunno!
I just think of them as victims of a very successful marketing campaign! 
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bt take away their livelihood n they're left wif nth at all.
we canot compare liddis wif our comfortable standard of livin de.
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ok, i knw le.
all luxury houses shall lower their pdts' prices till dirt cheep.
tadah!
dis wil definitely make the consumers fil betta.
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I don't think you can compare luxury houses with luxury fashion goods!
Besides, there will always be a market for ostentatious goods, simply because of the way society is, and pure simple economics. As long as there continues to be a demand, ostentatious goods will always exist.
What we're discussing in this thread here, is the fact that luxury fashion items may be priced that way for maximum profits, not because of quality nor craftsmanship any longer. If you would read the very first post with the article exposing the practices, you will then realise that that sets the entire premise for this discussion.
Whether one chooses to spend one's money on luxury fashion items or not, is not our business. It is their money to spend as they wish. The goal here, is to expose the unfair and unethical practices of some of these luxury fashion companies and thus, enable us to make informed decisions when we make purchases.
And btw, please distinguish between luxury FASHION products, and luxury cars and houses... all are ostentatious goods, but they are not quite the same. As stated in the article, if you'd read it, high-end fashion houses may no longer be giving you the quality you thought you paid for. Instead, you are simply paying grotesquely inflated prices for products that do not really warrant that price. However, for luxury cars, you are paying for quality finishes, for leather seats, and hopefully, for a more powerful engine, top-of-the-line safety features, etc etc etc. And for luxury houses, you are paying for the price of the land, the quality finishes, the interior design, the architect's fees, etc etc etc.
Are you now able to see the differences?
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wah, can tell u quite a fashion noob leh.
come, lemme help u!
Louis Vuitton celebrates 150 years of luxury
Published: TUESDAY, FEBRUARY 3, 2004PARIS: Next week, a giant store, its façade scintillating with crystalline glass, will open on New York's Fifth Avenue — yet another reason for Louis Vuitton to celebrate its 150th birthday.
The milestone year was ushered in on the Champs-Elysées with a gigantic re-creation of the house's chocolate-brown traveling trunk with gold initials. For the Chinese New Year, the house beamed a greeting in Chinese characters by satellite around the world, emphasizing the global reach of a company that Louis Vuitton, the son of a carpenter, founded in 1854.
"We did not want to focus on one single event with a cake and candles, but to make people understand that after 150 years Vuitton is forever young, fresh and creative," says Yves Carcelle, chairman and C.E.O. of the leather-goods company and the man credited with leading its breakneck advance. Working with his boss, Bernard Arnault, chairman of LVMH (Moët Hennessy Louis Vuitton), Carcelle has made Vuitton the lifeblood — not to say the cash cow — of the luxury conglomerate. Its total revenue in 2003 was nudging €3 billion ($3.74 billion), a multiple of five over 15 years, each of which saw double-digit growth. Even more significant was the house's enormous increase in operating margin, to 45 percent in 2003, far ahead of competing brands.
blah blah blah blah blah
Out of Vuitton's 10,000 employees, 3,600 work in 14 ateliers in France. Arnault, asked about the success of Vuitton, says: "It's the quality, because we do everything ourselves, from creativity through manufacture and distribution. We are the only luxury house to offer such quality at half the price of others."
blah blah blah blah blah
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could you please post a link as reference?
btw, people take offence to me saying their very expensive LV bag looks ugly..
well, if they don't want me to give my opinion, they should not ask me..
fricken purple monstrosity, they spend a bigass slab of their pay on it, and then say they can't bear to use it... uhh..
they still don't believe me when i tell them the things are probably made in sweatshops.. they'd rather believe their own delusion
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Let's not start getting personal and start calling names just because someone disagrees with you.
If you feel offended by the posts in here because you happen to be a fashion connoiseur whilst a few of us are 'fashion noobs', and you choose to be snotty about it, it just goes to show that you can't hold a discussion, agree to disagree, and not resort to name-calling.
I am not an authority on fashion, never have, never will be, never want to be. Once again, I repeat that this thread was started because of that article I read exposing the luxury fashion industry. If you feel beholden to defend your favourite fashion houses, don't go shooting the messenger.
Anyways, it's good marketing to always highlight your strong selling points to your customers and potential customers. Which fashion house will tell you anything bad about their manufacturing process and all? That would be like shooting themselves in the foot, n'est pas?
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noob is nth at all.
y liddat u oso nit to get all defensive.
u chose to b anal abt the irrelevant part & totally missed my pt.
dos labourers cant eben get by wif 3 decent meals a day.
so wat if sum high & almighty humanist cms & eradicates the whole industry.
u tink he/she wil b doin dem a favour?
n-o, no.
compassion is nt oly thru the heart & mouth.
u hv to spare a tot fer dem too.
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Originally posted by Hello Kitty:
noob is nth at all.
y liddat u oso nit to get all defensive.
u chose to b anal abt the irrelevant part & totally missed my pt.
dos labourers cant eben get by wif 3 decent meals a day.
so wat if sum high & almighty humanist cms & eradicates the whole industry.
u tink he/she wil b doin dem a favour?
n-o, no.
compassion is nt oly thru the heart & mouth.
u hv to spare a tot fer dem too.
'Nothing at all'? Then I suggest that you do your homework and know the meanings of the words you slap on others before using it.
Noob, according to Wikipedia :
There are a multitude of words that have emerged from the original "Newbie", each with their own meaning and origins. There are such terms like "nubcakes" or "nubotron" which emerged from generally gamers expressing their anger of success with their fellow players. The general rule is to use the nub- or noob- stems in order to create specific insults or expletives, as in "nooblet," or "nubcracker."
And, Noob, according to the Urban Dictionary :
"A noob or n00b is someone that lacks intellegance or common sense, most people think that noob is a word used only in the online gaming world, but in reality it is becoming an ever popular word with teenage society.
Noobs ... know little and have no will to learn any more. They expect people to do the work for them and then expect to get praised about it, and make up a unique species of their own.
Noobs are often referred to as noobs as a sign of disrespect toward them... "
Don't go around slapping a derogatory term on someone and then accuse the other party of over-reacting and pleading innocence.
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i knw dat.
so do u xpect me to go on all fours n bow to u.
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I'm sorry, I'm never going to support corporations that are profit-hungry to the extent of being unethical. Earning profits IS the ráison d'etre of all corporations, but it's then a matter of HOW that is achieved as well as how ethical their practices are.
Your trend of thought is... amusing. So we have to support the labourers who work in these corporations because they need the income?
How about supporting the drug dealers who sell drugs because they also need the income to feed their families too?
Sorry, if someone is out to fleece you blind, I don't think 'compassion' is the appropriate term to apply in this context!
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Originally posted by Hello Kitty:
i knw dat.
so do u xpect me to go on all fours n bow to u.
So, now that you realise you insulted me by calling me a 'fashion noob', instead of apologising, you're attacking me for letting you know that you had just insulted me?
You are ... amusing!
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i knw hw it derived n all these.
bt it's nt eben... vulgar owat.
y shud u take offence.
come sumone else, me wud hv said the same too.
i wud apologise for this thread to b headin dis way (nt dat me is gng to).
bt no, me is nt gng to apologise fer callin one a noob.
ober my dead body.
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Originally posted by Hello Kitty:
i knw hw it derived n all these.
bt it's nt eben... vulgar owat.
y shud u take offence.
come sumone else, me wud hv said the same too.
i wud apologise for this thread to b headin dis way (nt dat me is gng to).
bt no, me is nt gng to apologise fer callin one a noob.
ober my dead body.
OK then, thanks for your 'compassion'!
It's a waste of my time speaking to bleeding hearts. Have a good day!
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i missed ur "compassion" argument.
drugs harm ppl.
these labourers toil wif their blood & sweat.
so yesh, me wil cont to support dem.
n my heart is flutterin.
coz me is in luv.
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Originally posted by Hello Kitty:
i knw hw it derived n all these.
bt it's nt eben... vulgar owat.
y shud u take offence.
come sumone else, me wud hv said the same too.
i wud apologise for this thread to b headin dis way (nt dat me is gng to).
bt no, me is nt gng to apologise fer callin one a noob.
ober my dead body.
it's really funny..
you come in, with your silly nonsense, insulting people, showing (again and again) your ignorance.. and hey.. you refuse to apologise..
if in real life you are silly enough to be like that, one of these days, it might by over your dead body..
but not here, no one can be bothered enough to do anything about this..
like i said, i kind of pity you.. simply because i save my pity for retards
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Originally posted by Hello Kitty:
i missed ur "compassion" argument.
drugs harm ppl.
these labourers toil wif their blood & sweat.
so yesh, me wil cont to support dem.
n my heart is flutterin.
coz me is in luv.
Applause to you for not supporting drug dealers. But thou shalt support fashion houses who manipulate consumers and employ unethical practices to earn profits by the hundreds of % and then pay just an itty-bity-bit of that obscene profit to their labourers.
I used the drug dealers analogy to illustrate the folly of your argument and erm... ? logic. I was employing gross exaggeration to show you how flawed your trend of thought was. If you've missed that totally and taken everything literally instead of figuratively, then... I suppose I give up!
It's been quite a headache trying to decipher your posts, but thanks for contributing your two cents' worth.
And sorry, I didn't realise you had PM'd me thrice.
Ask anyone here, they know that I'm bad with PM's because I never take my eyes off the big screen long enough to realise there are PM's waiting for me. 
But I must say, I'd rather you say whatever you have to say in here, out in the open, instead of through PM's, where you first tried to explain you weren't being aggressive, and then revoked your explanation, and then tried to have the last say. Wow... roller-coaster dips and dives so steep I'm getting an aneurysm just trying to make sense of things! -
Originally posted by the Bear:
it's really funny..
you come in, with your silly nonsense, insulting people, showing (again and again) your ignorance.. and hey.. you refuse to apologise..
if in real life you are silly enough to be like that, one of these days, it might by over your dead body..
but not here, no one can be bothered enough to do anything about this..
like i said, i kind of pity you.. simply because i save my pity for retards
oh, it's u.
wat r u feelin sore over?
wat was dat thread dat we sparred in?
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Alright... this is getting ridiculous...
The title of the thread is :
An Exposé On The Luxury Goods Industry
As with all other Club 30 threads, differences in opinions are welcome; insults and personal attacks in the course of the discussion, not welcome.
Back to the original discussion!
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Originally posted by Rhonda:
Applause to you for not supporting drug dealers. But thou shalt support fashion houses who manipulate consumers and employ unethical practices to earn profits by the hundreds of % and then pay just an itty-bity-bit of that obscene profit to their labourers.
I used the drug dealers analogy to illustrate the folly of your argument and erm... ? logic. I was employing gross exaggeration to show you how flawed your trend of thought was. If you've missed that totally and taken everything literally instead of figuratively, then... I suppose I give up!
It's been quite a headache trying to decipher your posts, but thanks for contributing your two cents' worth.
And sorry, I didn't realise you had PM'd me thrice.
Ask anyone here, they know that I'm bad with PM's because I never take my eyes off the big screen long enough to realise there are PM's waiting for me. But I must say, I'd rather you say whatever you have to say in here, out in the open, instead of through PM's, where you first tried to explain you weren't being aggressive, and then revoked your explanation, and then tried to have the last say. Wow... roller-coaster dips and dives so steep I'm getting an aneurysm just trying to make sense of things! ur analogy was too far-fetched.
nt eberiting can b jumbled together to b spoken figuratively.
i duno u dat well yet bt i tink i do knw u betta nw to knw dat u cant eben b a gd judge of wat u cud say in the open.
if i had wanted to post it fer all n sundry to c, i wud hv done so myself.
n i beliv dat u had falsely interpreted me as hvin to hv the last say in my last pm to u.
no thks to dat.
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Before you criticise my language skills, please re-write your post so that I can at least understand what you are trying to say instead of squinting and trying to decipher all that abbreviation. It's taking too much effort to decipher your code. And, it's alright... Gedanken once famously revealed that there are people who simply cannot understand nor grasp the concept of figurative language.
OK, one last time, the topic is??? ...
An Exposé On The Luxury Goods Industry
Thank you.
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did i criticise on ur lang skill???
would you, then, have comprehension skill if i were to spell my words in full?
ahhh, speekin of quotes, me luv einstein's quote of "great spirits hv oways encountered violent opposition frm mediocre minds"!
back to the topic - wud u nt tink dat the author is bankin in on the scandal as well?
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Originally posted by Hello Kitty:
did i criticise on ur lang skill???
would you, then, have comprehension skill if i were to spell my words in full?
ahhh, speekin of quotes, me luv einstein's quote of "great spirits hv oways encountered violent opposition frm mediocre minds"!
back to the topic - wud u nt tink dat the author is bankin in on the scandal as well?
Oh my gosh! You are tenacious like poison ivy!
Yes, it is beyond my limited intelligence to comprehend gibberish. And you actually have the audacity to quote Einstein, implying that you are of 'great spirits' and I am of 'mediocre mind'?
And this time round PLEASE do not shun responsibility by calling me 'defensive' because you didn't mean to insult me / you were just quoting your favourite quote / I have misunderstood you / that's the way you speak, appearing confrontational and aggressive when you are just being compassionate and understanding, yada-yada. Because face it, your cat claws are out and you are just itching for a full-on catfight but you still want to hold on to some innocent, charming and sweet persona. I would love to sit here and continue but : 1) the weather is fantastic and I prefer to go out then continue this mud-slinging slimefest with someone who obviously thinks that she knows it all and wants to have the last authoritative word on everything; 2) it's my precious day off and I'd rather do something enjoyable; 3) this discussion is getting nowhere and will continue to get nowhere; 4) this discussion is heading towards a silly name-calling scenario, with obvious pomposity from you; and 5) if you are THAT delusional as to suggest that you are of "great spirits", then I rest my case.
And oh, the author is known as a 'whistleblower' and if she has exposed unethical practices that have been covered up for years, and her book has hit the best-seller charts because of her exposé, then that's her just reward for being a brave whistleblower. Afterall, everyone has the right to not buy her book, but there are logical people out there who choose to know what they have been paying for, and rightfully so.
Feel free to have the last word or words - I refuse to participate in this petty and nonsensical sparring with someone who lacks basic logic because it is getting too tedious and is fast losing its initial entertainment value.