Originally posted by kopiosatu:i'm not chinese.
or singaporean.
Khun Thai ....
I am proud of being a Chinese....Our culture is one of the 4 Great Civilizations. We have a rich history. But I am not a traditionalist who blindly follows unreasonable aspects of my culture.
I am proud to be a Singaporean. Despite having stayed in "Ang Moh Countries" at different stages of my life, and for the past 6 years in Oz, I have never tried to put on an accent. As long as I am clear in my spoken English, I have no problems with Ang Mohs of any countries understanding me. In fact,
As to the extent of how proud I am of being a Singaporean? In Oz, I use Optus for my home phone, Internet and Mobile, when I could have got a better deal with other service providers.
When I travel, I mainly use SIA. Only when I cannot get any available seats, the next best option will be Emirates. I read Asiaone every morning before I read Oz news
Hubby's fren once asked me why did I not take up Oz citizenship? Is this country not good enough for u? My answer, I am a Singaporean.
Tammie, I deleted this because it's a duplicate of the above. ~ Jetta
I just can't bring myself to give up my Sg pp.
Originally posted by jetta:I just can't bring myself to give up my Sg pp.
Don't. I wouldn't. I'd take PR in whichever other country I end up in, but I wouldn't give up my Singapore citizenship no matter what. It remains an oasis for me.
hiaK
In my experiences overseas, I've noticed that Asians tend to be more prone to losing their heritage. Which is why I find it easier to socialize with the locals in any particular destination, who are after all, being themselves.
I say Asians because Asians in western countries tend to have a bigger 'gap' to bridge in terms of cultural differences. This is probably in the way of being understood and getting 'accepted' into cliques of different cultures/nationalities. Not necessarily about not being proud of their heritage. ie. when they go back to their home countries, they are perfectly 'themselves' again. But the example cited by Fatum is quite extreme(ly funny)
I'm quite proud to be a Chinese Singaporean.
Hok-Chew
Originally posted by CUM ON MY FACE:In my experiences overseas, I've noticed that Asians tend to be more prone to losing their heritage. Which is why I find it easier to socialize with the locals in any particular destination, who are after all, being themselves.
I say Asians because Asians in western countries tend to have a bigger 'gap' to bridge in terms of cultural differences. This is probably in the way of being understood and getting 'accepted' into cliques of different cultures/nationalities. Not necessarily about not being proud of their heritage. ie. when they go back to their home countries, they are perfectly 'themselves' again. But the example cited by Fatum is quite extreme(ly funny)
My first encounter with the term "FOB", when I first went over to Canada, was, ironically, from a CBC (Canadian Born Chinese) ...
Yes you're right in a sense, many overseas born asians do seem to suffer from an identity crisis .... some of them have this hang up about people like us (FOBs), and are very reluctant to welcome you into their social circles, especially when there are ang mohs in their group .... they think you speak funny, and the more unfortunate ones, who've never been to the "old country", tend to think you're from some third world shit hole which they had the good fortune not to be born in .... some of them stresses their accent till it becomes almost comical when you're around ...
then again, some of these types also like to wear their cultural and ethnic identity as a form of fancy dress at times .... during CNY (which happened to be around the stressful midterms period ) some of the chaps would come to class in fancy chinese silk robes that none of us would be caught dead in over here .... all part of the chu ching chow act of course .... this, I personally think, is the fault of Amy Tan and her joy luck club ...
and of course, this is something some landed FOBs suffer from as well ... I ran into Singaporeans, ex or otherwise, during my time there, who've tried to totally erase their past identities ... when you talk to them, they first came across as CBC types, but you can tell something's not right instantly, the accent came across as very artificial and contrived, something partially learnt later, and not from childhood ... the mannerisms and attitudes too "forced" .... it was only later, when other people go "Hey, ___, you know, X is from Singapore too ! ... have you met her ? ... then the penny dropped ...
are they embarrassed about being from Singapore ? embarrassed about being fingered as a FOB, or what ? ... they don't want to be tied together with another Singaporean ? ... I have never hidden where I was from, so why hide it from me ? ... The funniest part, of course ... is to encounter these types of people, in Singapore ! .... I'll just snigger to myself, and write those people off .... people who doesn't even respect themselves, who they are, where they are from ... doesn't deserve respect from others either ...
Originally posted by jetta:I just can't bring myself to give up my Sg pp.
jetta, dun give up ur SG PP....Rhonda is right. It is useful. Maybe one day when u get extremely homesick, u might want to return to SG for good.
Originally posted by Fatum:My first encounter with the term "FOB", when I first went over to Canada, was, ironically, from a CBC (Canadian Born Chinese) ...
Yes you're right in a sense, many overseas born asians do seem to suffer from an identity crisis .... some of them have this hang up about people like us (FOBs), and are very reluctant to welcome you into their social circles, especially when there are ang mohs in their group .... they think you speak funny, and the more unfortunate ones, who've never been to the "old country", tend to think you're from some third world shit hole which they had the good fortune not to be born in .... some of them stresses their accent till it becomes almost comical when you're around ...
then again, some of these types also like to wear their cultural and ethnic identity as a form of fancy dress at times .... during CNY (which happened to be around the stressful midterms period ) some of the chaps would come to class in fancy chinese silk robes that none of us would be caught dead in over here .... all part of the chu ching chow act of course .... this, I personally think, is the fault of Amy Tan and her joy luck club ...
and of course, this is something some landed FOBs suffer from as well ... I ran into Singaporeans, ex or otherwise, during my time there, who've tried to totally erase their past identities ... when you talk to them, they first came across as CBC types, but you can tell something's not right instantly, the accent came across as very artificial and contrived, something partially learnt later, and not from childhood ... the mannerisms and attitudes too "forced" .... it was only later, when other people go "Hey, ___, you know, X is from Singapore too ! ... have you met her ? ... then the penny dropped ...
are they embarrassed about being from Singapore ? embaressed about being fingered as a FOB, or what ? ... they doesn't want to be tied together with another Singaporean ? ... I have never hidden where I was from, so why hide it from me ? ... The funniest part, of course ... is to encounter these types of people, in Singapore ! .... I'll just snigger to myself, and write those people off .... people who doesn't even respect themselves, who they are, where they are from ... doesn't deserve respect from others either ...
Yes apparently I'm part of the FOB squad too, I was told. (by an Asian, no less)
You've summed it up very well about those hang-ups and social circles. I guess it is a sad thing for Asians in general - there is always that (sub)conscious issue of segregation based on whether you were born in a western country or a '3rd world shithole', your English proficiency, whether you are with a western accent, a contrived accent, a comically contrived accent, or simply sticking to your 'original' accent, blah.. It is very disappointing when you can't even rely on/count on your own kind in a foreign land, as a result of all these rift-creating 'identity crises'.
As for those who try so hard to put on different identities, I think they are creating for themselves serious personality disorders. What do you become when you have to play the part of an impersonator every day of your life?
I am so proud of my heritage, I think I need to conjure up a indian uncle to justify me loving Indian foods.
Originally posted by viciouskitty74:I am so proud of my heritage, I think I need to conjure up a indian uncle to justify me loving Indian foods.
simple, u r a singaporean.... and our national passion is food... hahaha
Nothing wrong with being asian or any other race. Personally i think that some people have this impression that caucasians are superior to asians hence the need to act as if they are exposed to western culture or were raised overseas.
Just my 2 cents worth.
Originally posted by tare:
simple, u r a singaporean.... and our national passion is food... hahaha
Yes! Yes!! I have yet to meet an Aussie who appreciate food like we do!
I am happy with my multicultural & genetic heritage .Born goodl looking >hahaha
Originally posted by Short Ninja:I am happy with my multicultural & genetic heritage .Born goodl looking >hahaha
NPNT