Originally posted by cApitaland:omg. brilliant idea!
it worked
Originally posted by SevenEleven:hmm...that's interesting, I'm also interested in I-Ching, maybe you can teach me a thing or two. years ago, i did a computer program on calculations of i-ching.
i am not an expert, i read it a couple of year ago, almost forget liao now, and about computer, i remember there is a rumour said the computer binary system come from i ching bagua, and the first computer is not the computer nowadays, they used - - and - to represent 1 and 0, and - - and - are carved on a pad, there input it into computer, maybe it's the first machine language,
And i ching, i used to use it to fortune telling my friends, sometimes it turn out to be accurate, but the philosophical implication of i ching is much more important than the fortune telling nature of it,
for anyone want to do fortune telling, i teach you a method, then you can help yourself,
first, find three coin, use head to represent yang, tale to represent yin, or the other way round,
then mix the coin, throw the coin on the table, if three yin, it represent yang, if two yin ,one yang, it represent yang, why is this, don't ask why,just do it, if it's a yang, write an — on a paper, then as i said if three yang, or two yang one yin, it represent yin, if it's yin write -- on paper,
throw the coin six times, then you got a bagua like |||||| or ||||||
|||||| ,
the real picture is flip 90 degree of what i write down, there are 64 combination of bagua ,the |||||| is pure yang , the other is pure yin, then find the i ching book, find the corresponded chapter of annotation, there are 64 chapter in i ching, then if you can read chinese, just read from the book, it tell you your fortune,
And way the real method is much more complicated than this, it's an simplified method.
go to the following website to get the scripture of i ching
I see that unker 7-11's intended sarcasm was totally lost on her ...
Originally posted by rokkie:for anyone want to do fortune telling, i teach you a method, then you can help yourself,
first, find three coin, use head to represent yang, tale to represent yin, or the other way round,
then mix the coin, throw the coin on the table, if three yin, it represent yang, if two yin ,one yang, it represent yang, why is this, don't ask why,just do it, if it's a yang, write an — on a paper, then as i said if three yang, or two yang one yin, it represent yin, if it's yin write -- on paper,
throw the coin six times, then you got a bagua like |||||| or ||||||
|||||| ,
the real picture is flip 90 degree of what i write down, there are 64 combination of bagua ,the |||||| is pure yang , the other is pure yin, then find the i ching book, find the corresponded chapter of annotation, there are 64 chapter in i ching, then if you can read chinese, just read from the book, it tell you your fortune,
And way the real method is much more complicated than this, it's an simplified method.
go to the following website to get the scripture of i ching
if 3 yin, it has 2 face to it. meaning it will make 2 kua rather then one
_ _ _ or _____
Originally posted by Fatum:I see that unker 7-11's intended sarcasm was totally lost on her ...
it's good to see someone who's common
Originally posted by SevenEleven:
it's good to see someone who's common
I told the ladies, I'll get ready a magnifying glass and a torch light for you at the potluck, so you can set up stall at one corner ...
Originally posted by SevenEleven:if 3 yin, it has 2 face to it. meaning it will make 2 kua rather then one
_ _ _ or _____
if 3 yin, it has 2 face, sorry, i don't get it, the yang gua is _____ yin gua is _ _ there is not such thing_ _ _ , after you throw the coin three times, you will get sth like
_ _
_ _
_ _
(pure yin gua)
___
___
___
(pure yang gua)
Originally posted by SevenEleven:if 3 yin, it has 2 face to it. meaning it will make 2 kua rather then one
_ _ _ or _____
if 3 yin ,it means it's an yang , because yin and yang only manifest when it's small in quantity,
Originally posted by rokkie:
if 3 yin ,it means it's an yang , because yin and yang only manifest when it's small in quantity,
you are right. 3 coin are toss six times. the first 3 toss represents the later hexagram and the next 3 represents the earlier hexagram. The first toss is the bottom line and the 6 toss is the top line.
Let say it you toss 3 tails for all the 6 toss, You get 6 yin lines representing the KUN kua. You have to read the KUN (2nd kua) but because it is all 3 tails per toss, it can also be transform to a yang. therefore it is also a 6 yang lines representing the CHIEN (1st kua)
toss 6 : __6__ can also transform to _____
toss 5 : __6__ can also transform to _____
toss 4 : __6__ can also transform to _____
toss 3 : __6__ can also transform to _____
toss 2 : __6__ can also transform to _____
toss 1 : __6__ can also transform to _____
You have to take both CHIEN and KUN into consideration in your reading
Originally posted by rokkie:
if 3 yin ,it means it's an yang , because yin and yang only manifest when it's small in quantity,
double post
Originally posted by rokkie:
if 3 yin, it has 2 face, sorry, i don't get it, the yang gua is _____ yin gua is _ _ there is not such thing_ _ _ , after you throw the coin three times, you will get sth like_ _
_ _
_ _
(pure yin gua)
___
___
___
(pure yang gua)
for the ease of representation, we have use - - - to represent yin and - 6 - to represent yin with a yang transformation
similarly, we use ___ to represent yang and __9__ to represent yang with a yin transformation
and stars represent that i'm confused... hahahahahaaa
Originally posted by tare:and stars represent that i'm confused... hahahahahaaa
rokkie would understand what we meant
Originally posted by SevenEleven:
you are right. 3 coin are toss six times. the first 3 toss represents the later hexagram and the next 3 represents the earlier hexagram. The first toss is the bottom line and the 6 toss is the top line.Let say it you toss 3 tails for all the 6 toss, You get 6 yin lines representing the KUN kua. You have to read the KUN (2nd kua) but because it is all 3 tails per toss, it can also be transform to a yang. therefore it is also a 6 yang lines representing the CHIEN (1st kua)
toss 6 : __6__ can also transform to _____
toss 5 : __6__ can also transform to _____
toss 4 : __6__ can also transform to _____
toss 3 : __6__ can also transform to _____
toss 2 : __6__ can also transform to _____
toss 1 : __6__ can also transform to _____
You have to take both CHIEN and KUN into consideration in your reading
hi ,seems that you are pretty expert about this, good, but here i don't understand
You have to read the KUN (2nd kua) but because it is all 3 tails per toss, it can also be transform to a yang.
seems you are talking the advanced technique, here i am only talking about the simple method, because using this method, can only show yin, or yang, not the whole picture, with the less yin and less yang, so all together it should have four element, yin, less yin, yang less yang, and with the complete of four element, it's more complicated here, it's the transformation you are talking about, but, here i am only talking the simple method, ignore less yin and less yang, so here got no transformation of what you are talking about,
for the full method please refer to article by Nan huai jin
Originally posted by rokkie:
hi ,seems that you are pretty expert about this, good, but here i don't understand
You have to read the KUN (2nd kua) but because it is all 3 tails per toss, it can also be transform to a yang.
seems you are talking the advanced technique, here i am only talking about the simple method, because using this method, can only show yin, or yang, not the whole picture, with the less yin and less yang, so all together it should have four element, yin, less yin, yang less yang, and with the complete of four element, it's more complicated here, it's the transformation you are talking about, but, here i am only talking the simple method, ignore less yin and less yang, so here got no transformation of what you are talking about,
i read the books frm this
http://www.sacred-texts.com/ich/index.htm
James Legge translations from confuscius
Although the founder was Hu HSi,the best record was the 周易 was founded by 周文王. He was imprisoned during a coup and during the stay in prison, he re-wrote the i-ching that was used even in confuscius time. This is sometime call the book of change.
There is another way of divination using a table with the 64 trigram in a circle. A 2 way pointer 180 degree is turned and the reading obtained (rouette). However more often is the coins being used.
Thanks for sharing
Originally posted by SevenEleven:i read the books frm this
http://www.sacred-texts.com/ich/index.htm
James Legge translation
the 周易 was founded by 周文王. He was imprisoned during a coup and during the stay in prison, he re-wrote the i-ching that was used even in confuscius time. This is sometime call the book of change.
There is another way of divination using a table with the 64 trigram in a circle. A 2 way pointer 180 degree is turned and the reading obtained (rouette). However more often is the coins being used.
Thanks for sharing
good luck, i think maybe you can fortune telling your friends, i used have done this , just for fun, turn out to be somehow accurate, yi in chinese, means change, in fact there three means in the yi, convinient, simple, and everlasting,
actually the 64 hexagram show the law how something start from scratch, and growing developing, and falling,
the last second chapter is jiji, means everything is perfect, then the last chapter is wei ji, means everything become imperfect again, then the life cycle start all over again.
Kongzi said if i read i ching at 50, i will have no more mistakes,
i don't believe supernatural force, but i believe when you master the law of change, the change of state of everything, then some other people, look at you, feel you are supernatural, lol.
magic
I dunno about fengshui but Fatum's fortune fountain was overflowing and the shelf lamination it's sitting on is starting to split open
You better remind yr bro to pour less water
Also I think the wealth ball is supposed to roll in the wealth through yr window looking at the direction but yr window is closed leh
phase one of the fengshui thingy's completed yesterday ....
me and my bro switched rooms ......
I'm happy with my room arrangements ... but I think my younger bro's going nuts .....
now his bed and his table's are both 45 degrees to the edges of a room ...
I changed the position of the guest room bed at my sister home since last year.
Reasoning is that bed was orginally facing the mirrored wall wardrobe.
I moved it such that the bed now faces the shutter windows. And so far, I see that its still facing the window, and I am not waking up to the image at the mirrors.
I was think, if ppl are interested in fengshui but are too worried about the chinese in fengshui, I could start an elementary fengshui in English. All in the name of 以文会�。
it should include questions on whether FS is supertition or science, the history of FS, the basic concept of yin-yang and the characteristics of the 5 elements before going into an area of FS call å…«å®…
I think I am just going to stick to:
1) Hang windchimes outside the windows.
2) Have plenty of those change luck bamboos in dark corners of the house.
3) Burn incense and kinda use it to smoke dark corner of a hotel and under the bed.
4) Use a sunny day to clear the room by striking a bowl to make sound.
Originally posted by SevenEleven:I was think, if ppl are interested in fengshui but are too worried about the chinese in fengshui, I could start an elementary fengshui in English. All in the name of 以文会�。
it should include questions on whether FS is supertition or science, the history of FS, the basic concept of yin-yang and the characteristics of the 5 elements before going into an area of FS call å…«å®…
you go start a course, I be your agent/manager/recruiter ...
Originally posted by SevenEleven:I was think, if ppl are interested in fengshui but are too worried about the chinese in fengshui, I could start an elementary fengshui in English. All in the name of 以文会�。
it should include questions on whether FS is supertition or science, the history of FS, the basic concept of yin-yang and the characteristics of the 5 elements before going into an area of FS call å…«å®…
we will welcome you to do that,lol