HIV positive, Who has a right to know ?
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Reminds me of when I was working in one giant American MNC back in Singapore, we had an American colleague who was HIV positive who was responsible enough to announce it to the company. He even wore a kind of collarpin to let all of us know that he has HIV. None of us shunned him. I guess even the locals observed how the Caucasians would interact with him as per normal and we ourselves slowly stepped forward as well.
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Originally posted by Rhonda:
Reminds me of when I was working in one giant American MNC back in Singapore, we had an American colleague who was HIV positive who was responsible enough to announce it to the company. He even wore a kind of collarpin to let all of us know that he has HIV. None of us shunned him. I guess even the locals observed how the Caucasians would interact with him as per normal and we ourselves slowly stepped forward as well.
I tell ya it's coz he is a CaucasianI bet that if it is an Asian, they will treat him like he has the bubonic plague
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Originally posted by the Bear:
btw... you guys do know that through a cocktail of anti-virals and stuff like that, the medication can knock the viral load to almost zero, which means the person, although carrying the virus, can live like a normal person.. something akin to a "passive carrier"...
yup. reminds me of the south park episode, where they found the cure for aids, which is money. lots and lots of money.
lol
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HIV...
*shudders*
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Is selfish not to divulge your sickness loh..
imagine the next person might get infected if he/she comes into contact with your open wound =.=''' i am referring to people like doctors (patient might forget to reveal their HIV status), or perhaps when u are outside & get a open wound where some helpful & kind-hearted passerbys attend to your wound..
the others non-infected are innocent & they should have a right to know..
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if i am not wrong, all health personel are trained to used glove when handling blood related incident
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Originally posted by Hwaimeng:
parn u dont know ma.........in singapore 1 person contact with HIV everyday
in the world
2 person is contact with HIV every 1 sec
Hmm.....but how come HIV can spread this quickly???Are you lying?
So you're saying soon I will be able to ask people that I've met "Do you have HIV?" and the person will think I'm very de cool and also very IN-style?
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I think I will faint if I'm trapped inside a lift full of HIV carriers.
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I wonder when they will start making HIV movies instead of zombies one.
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Do you think they will have concession cards for HIV carriers or discount cards or even CREDIT CARDS specially for HIV carriers? (Must have more more more and more discount%)
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Maybe they can even sell food and drinks meant for HIV carriers...with ++added anti/resist HIV ingredients?
How about HIV Pizza? Or HIV Mobile phones/plans?
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Ok, see you all later.
I'm going to shop at HIV PLAZA now.......wow.......discount plaza!
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Originally posted by miNty`:
Is selfish not to divulge your sickness loh..
imagine the next person might get infected if he/she comes into contact with your open wound =.=''' i am referring to people like doctors (patient might forget to reveal their HIV status), or perhaps when u are outside & get a open wound where some helpful & kind-hearted passerbys attend to your wound..
the others non-infected are innocent & they should have a right to know..
like i said.. i think it's all about circumstances. and risk levels. doctors will be examining you, and there might be blood or body fluid contact, so of course they should be informed, besides letting the doctor know doesn't compromise the patient's privacy, since there is a doctor - patient confidentiality.
letting your lover know, because there will be physically intimate contact.
does your colleagues need to know, if you're working in an environment where there is a low risk of injury - say... an office pencil pusher? the risk level of getting infected is so low, but if you let everyone know, the chances of everyone treating you like crap is so high, the trade off simply isn't fair. i feel that if the risks are low, like minimal to nearly impossible of getting infected, the patient has the right to his privacy and a life which is as normal as possible..
as for... getting scratched up outside, how often do you see ppl helping others in singapore? lol. but that aside, when that happens, the patient can always be more careful and not allow ppl to be near them.
if you're going to give an example like, if the patient is unconscious and others don't know and get "infected", so are you saying, that if a hiv patient is injured and unconscious, they shouldn't be helped because you're afraid of getting infected? that mentality - justifies all the more, why they should have their privacy protected.
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Can laminate the HIV patient or not?
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personally, i think it's gonna be like the holocaust of the jews la... of course it is a real risk.
you will die if you get infected, but so do many other diseases, how come you're not so affected by those?
smoking causes cancer, but you don't see people quit smoking do you? eating fatty meat gives you heart problems, but you don't see people eating healthy do you?
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Originally posted by maskedangel:
some things are meant to kept a secret. . . .
for this case, not . . . .I totally agree with you..
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I thought normal contact won't spred HIV/AIDS unless YOUR open wound comes in contact with the HIV/AIDS carrier's open wound?
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"But that same year, researchers discovered that some gay men astonishingly remained uninfected despite engaging in very risky sex with as many as hundreds of partners. These men had inherited a mutation from both their parents that made them virtually immune to HIV.
The mutation prevents a molecule called CCR5 from appearing on the surface of cells. CCR5 acts as a kind of door for the virus. Since most HIV strains must bind to CCR5 to enter cells, the mutation bars the virus from entering. A new AIDS drug, Selzentry, made by Pfizer Inc., doesn't attack HIV itself but works by blocking CCR5."
Damn. Those gays are fucking lucky. Anyway, early treatment with currently existing drugs (albeit expensive) have been known to prolong the lives of HIV patients for up to decades. Also, with intensive research on HIV going on, a cure may be imminent for them too:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122602394113507555.html
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some gay men ......
and you have to wonder whether these were brokebackers or brokebackees ....
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Originally posted by Fatum:
some gay men ......
and you have to wonder whether these were brokebackers or brokebackees ....
Both the top and the bottom face equal risks.
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so, would u bang a hiv positive person?
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Originally posted by caleb_chiang:
so, would u bang a hiv positive person?
some would, there was even an interview of a couple who had unprotected sex with each other even after finding out one of them had the virus(before they did anything)
i'm with cathykitty on this issue, some people should be informed but it isn't necessary to let every know. as a society we're incredibly small minded, we all saw what happened during sars.
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Originally posted by parn:
Hmm.....but how come HIV can spread this quickly???Are you lying?
So you're saying soon I will be able to ask people that I've met "Do you have HIV?" and the person will think I'm very de cool and also very IN-style?
sometimes you don't know you're a carrier and you spread it around til you know, then you decide whether you're going to take revenge against society.
this was what i knew back from a while, was out for dinner in a group with mostly straight couples and 1 gay guy. when the topic suddenly turned into gay sex his description blew me away. he could do it anytime and anywhere, no protection. like just before crossing the causeway with a totally unknown stranger.(he said this stranger was straight but curious) other times it can happen just when you enter a carpark.(another stranger)
before leavingthe place, a group of his friends(all gays) came over to greet us and it was hinted they're all "together"
as for straight people... another guy i knew, and ex colleague has his whole life revolving around sex, i don't know if he uses protection but he usually likes to go clubbing to pick up girls and some days he looks for prostitutes.
and (this one's more like a rumour) one of my seconday school mates was said to like doing it without a condom with pros.
why wouldn't HIV spread?
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A friend and I was talking 'bout zootonic diseases, notably HIV..
You guys would be surprised to know that.. the possiblity of catching aids from having unprotected intercourse with a HIV infected sex worker.. is only 5 out of 10000 exposures..
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Exposure Route Estimated infections per 10,000 exposures to an infected source
Blood Transfusion 9,000
Childbirth 2,500
Needle-sharing injection 67
Percutaneous needle stick 30
Receptive anal intercourse* 50
Insertive anal intercourse* 6.5
Receptive penile-vaginal-intercourse* 10
Insertive penile-vaginal intercourse* 5
Receptive oral intercourse* 1
Insertive oral intercourse* 0.5--------------------------------------------
As you can see from the data above, if you're 'recieving-end' male homosexual.. the chances of you getting HIV from receptive anal intercourse is 50 out of 10,000 exposures.
If you're 'giving-end' male homosexual.. the chances of contracting HIV is significantly lower by 43.5 out of 10,000 exposures.
My theory is that.. male homosexuals are more prone to contracting HIV due to blood caused by anal tear (sorry, a li'l crude here.. but entirely for discussion purpose)
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Again, from that data above. You can see that females generally stand a higher chance of contracting HIV than males. But in Singapore, 9 out of 10 of the new Aids sufferers are males and 1/3 of them are homosexuals.
There're about 2000 recorded aids patients in sg now.