Originally posted by tare:sure a mage can aoe farm almost anything but keep in mind the amt of down time to eat and drink... is tat truly "farming effective"?
idk why u rolled a healer throughout the entire TBC when u hated healing... i'm rolling a healer cos i actually like to heal... tis make me wonder why are u playing WoW anyway?
and just for the record, i did not DECLARE that holy pally is the BEST healer... i said i choose it as it's a easier class to play... *roll eyes*
as for holy pally being worse with base stats, i would think a comparision chart using WOTLK content would be more relevant... i'm not saying ur statistics are wrong, frankly i have no idea... but tis is afterall WOTLK and not TBC
have u seen ice mages farm? i hardly see them stop to eat. if they're not farming effective maybe u'd like to explain why they're the most played farming class? Maybe u're right and god knows how many millions of people are wrong? ;D
Simple. Why do people tank or roll healers? Have u seen how difficult it is for dps to get parties for instances, raid spots etc? I play WoW because ive been a big warcraft fan since WC2 and totally love the lore. Unlike lots of people who play just for the raiding and totally miss out on a large part of the universe of warcraft.
Ok so you said paly is easier. I'm not so sure about that from a healing point of view, but maybe u're planning to be just a raide healer and totally not do 5 mans, so u could be right on that ^^
Oh this might be wotlk, but lets be honest, why would they suddenly be much different? if you wish i could simply have a look at the base stats of top rank lesser healing wave and FoL and get back to u right now. not hard since i got both a pala and a shaman. :D
shaman: 1624 to 1852 (ave 1738) for 659 mana = 2.64 heal/mana
pala: 788 to 833 (ave 810.5) for 307 mana = 2.64 heal/mana
As you can see shaman is as mana efficient as pala, but once u factor in the gains from gear, pala becomes more mana efficient because the mana cost is less, so you gain more bonus heal per mana than any other class. That mana efficiency is balanced out by the fact that a shaman's LHW is more likely to heal enough to keep a party member alive while a FoL's amount healed might not be enough in the same situation. Therefore how "easy" a paladin healer is to play is subject to debate. Certainly its the most relaxing main healer class to play in raids, but certainly one of the harder ones in 5 mans. Also, a good measure of how survivable any healing class is, is to see how easy they are to kill when u do heroic old kingdom's last boss during the insanity phase. Paladins are easy to kill. You'll find that shamans and priests take slightly longer because of the healing talents available to them. Hardest of all are druids, totally impossible to kill. Its a good reflection of which classes have the most imba general healing, without taking into specific roles like main healer etc.
Originally posted by Keii:Wall of Text hits Keii (Critical) for over 9000 damage. (8999 Overkill)
Keii dies.
Fix-ed =x
Btw Keii let me sort out my irl before going back to WoW
Work and CNY is not helping
No Helm of blue apsect for me =(
*bliss* the joy of aoe farming. moonbeam 6-7 mobs, barkskin + hurricane. and im hardly oom on *resto* spec/gears. its actually less keys to press as when i was feral farming.
i do try not to spam wildgrowth in heroics due to the incoming nerf. then i tried play pally like spamming regrowths rotations on the group members when they got aoe damage. it works but i go oom fast :/
oh i discovered some new thingy on healing. iirc in vanilla wow you need to face your grp member to heal him/her. thats changed i realise u can heal with your grp members behind you ie. no need to face them anymore. heals are now easier than ever :) but purists will moan the lack of skill now tho.. oh well u cant really cater to 12million ppl out there.
Finally hit cap with decent haste and SP to back up the hit... I am so looking forward to 25 mans now =X
Originally posted by milith:*bliss* the joy of aoe farming. moonbeam 6-7 mobs, barkskin + hurricane. and im hardly oom on *resto* spec/gears. its actually less keys to press as when i was feral farming.
i do try not to spam wildgrowth in heroics due to the incoming nerf. then i tried play pally like spamming regrowths rotations on the group members when they got aoe damage. it works but i go oom fast :/
oh i discovered some new thingy on healing. iirc in vanilla wow you need to face your grp member to heal him/her. thats changed i realise u can heal with your grp members behind you ie. no need to face them anymore. heals are now easier than ever :) but purists will moan the lack of skill now tho.. oh well u cant really cater to 12million ppl out there.
erm... u talking abt druid or pally healing skills?
druid hehe. basically if i'm not wrong, pallies spam FoL heals on group when they get aoe damage - 1 sec cast on each since they do not really have a true aoe heal. so i simulate this style by spamming regrowths on each member too instead of wildgrowth. its slower no doubt and it's definately not mana efficient. but i get a gist of how pally heal i guess.
Originally posted by milith:druid hehe. basically if i'm not wrong, pallies spam FoL heals on group when they get aoe damage - 1 sec cast on each since they do not really have a true aoe heal. so i simulate this style by spamming regrowths on each member too instead of wildgrowth. its slower no doubt and it's definately not mana efficient. but i get a gist of how pally heal i guess.
tat's wat i thot... but u suddenly talk abt pally, mai make me blur lah >.<
well i did "tried" to heal tofu's DK when he running the few of us (key's hunter + his bro + jaga's priest) in HF rampart... not a good guage tho, cos 2 of them lvl 80 and basically i mainly heal tofu abit nia cos he dun get hit TAT much... the rest of us can hardly pull aggro from him hahahaahaa
but healing in ret spec abit tough but will oom... i dun have anything tat give me back mana leh... unless i miss something out >.<
Originally posted by milith:*bliss* the joy of aoe farming. moonbeam 6-7 mobs, barkskin + hurricane. and im hardly oom on *resto* spec/gears. its actually less keys to press as when i was feral farming.
i do try not to spam wildgrowth in heroics due to the incoming nerf. then i tried play pally like spamming regrowths rotations on the group members when they got aoe damage. it works but i go oom fast :/
oh i discovered some new thingy on healing. iirc in vanilla wow you need to face your grp member to heal him/her. thats changed i realise u can heal with your grp members behind you ie. no need to face them anymore. heals are now easier than ever :) but purists will moan the lack of skill now tho.. oh well u cant really cater to 12million ppl out there.
haha true. but glad to see someone understands pala healing isnt a cakewalk.
tare: just wondering, how come u're levelling as ret if u want to heal? healing palas can quite easily lvl and solo quest. holy shock and judgements scale quite nicely with healing gear (aka spellpower gear). unless u're not really going to do the instances as a healer till 80.
At lvl 78 or 80 u get divine plea for all spec palas, gives u 25% mana over... 12 secs? or 10. but reduces healing by 20%. at yr lvl probably cant access some of the nicer class talents n spells yet. lvl 80 BoW gives 100mp5 for example. But no, healing as ret is tough. You're not missing anything.
lvling as ret cos it's easier and faster? at my lvl, i dun get much skills tat give me back mana... i planning to respec to holy at 70 when i go northend... prob have to quest slower but at least got chance to practice heal if anyone wanna run their alts
i still have to read up more... WHEN i have the time and not distracted by youtube >.<
my guess is, burning crusades instances are kinda hard to find party for these days anyway outside of guild runs, so no point levelling as holy i guess. But it is possible and truthfully not much harder or slower.
pala healing nothing much to read up... spam FoL, spec all the talents that make yr heals faster, crit increase etc. crit for pala is quite important cuz FoL is so small. otherwise its spaming FoL and learning to target party members as quick as u can
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U guys keep OS 3 drakes up liao? Dunno how they do it -.- so chaotic
haha i haven't log on for a while... my subscription expired, went to get new time card... gosh.... i've played this game for 3mths! o.O
Oh u pay by game card ah? Time pass fast lol i going to play for almost 1 year
I've been too busy to play
Originally posted by elindra:I've been too busy to play
Aww /pat Elindra .. CNY coming bah that's why?
Originally posted by Midlusionz:Aww /pat Elindra .. CNY coming bah that's why?
That is the main reason
It's worst for us married folks
OMG the ang baos
cry
Originally posted by elindra:
That is the main reasonIt's worst for us married folks
OMG the ang baos
cry
Elindra, can i bring orleng go your house bai nian!?
Originally posted by Midlusionz:Elindra, can i bring orleng go your house bai nian!?
-_-"
Hah, I phail :(
Originally posted by Midlusionz:Elindra, can i bring orleng go your house bai nian!?
ah mid u so fail! whr got ppl like dat say de??!!
el, end of mth wanna have a gathering at your plc? would love to see shelly... :D and of cos we won't be coming empty handed.... i bring 2 "gold" okie? :D
Originally posted by tare:ah mid u so fail! whr got ppl like dat say de??!!
el, end of mth wanna have a gathering at your plc? would love to see shelly... :D and of cos we won't be coming empty handed.... i bring 2 "gold" okie? :D
I phail in all this de lol
Originally posted by tare:ah mid u so fail! whr got ppl like dat say de??!!
el, end of mth wanna have a gathering at your plc? would love to see shelly... :D and of cos we won't be coming empty handed.... i bring 2 "gold" okie? :D
I dun give ang bao to ppl same age or older than me one -_-"
Originally posted by elindra:
I dun give ang bao to ppl same age or older than me one -_-"
I 20 nia!