Club 30: World of Warcraft War Room 3
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Originally posted by tare:
alamak nvr been to those places... and tat means i must go take my flying skill 1st :PNo flying in eastern kingdoms.....yet.
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Mid, question for you, since i saw your UI...
What loot system are you guys using? standard DKP?
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Originally posted by Shermalingam:
Mid, question for you, since i saw your UI...
What loot system are you guys using? standard DKP?
We use council loot.
but tbh DKP still better sometimes
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Originally posted by Midlusionz:
We use council loot.
but tbh DKP still better sometimes
Ah council loot... Then sure alot of pple kpkb over loot right?I'm using a weighted rolls system where rank = +bonus to rolls
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thr is always drama abt loot de....
i anything lah... tis time dun get, try again next time lor... and i resign to my fate of single digit rolls >.<
hopefully by the time my pally get to 80, ppl in guild all geared so no one else need it! waahahahahahahaa
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Originally posted by tare:
thr is always drama abt loot de....
i anything lah... tis time dun get, try again next time lor... and i resign to my fate of single digit rolls >.<
hopefully by the time my pally get to 80, ppl in guild all geared so no one else need it! waahahahahahahaa
Haha... even in the case of nobody needing loot anymore there can still be problems... Best-In-Slot everybody will still need...Now normal loot no problem liao pple start to bug about other things... Officers told me they received feedback that the EoE key quest should make it open to everyone else (up till now i distributed downwards rankwise)...
Sigh pple are never contented.... Esp these chao ang mohs....
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it's just pixels... >.< tis time dun get next time lor... then again, i dun even noe wat item is best inslot or watever :P
i always shocked when ppl gquit cos of loot... not happy then talk to GM or officer abt it lah...
it's like lucky draw... u roll and u win.... but thr's always the clause, the judges decision is final! waahahahahaa
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Yeah tell me about it...
In the end, have to agree with Mid... DKP still the best..
Everything clear cut, you got points you win, you no points can go eat grass...
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Originally posted by Shermalingam:
Yeah tell me about it...
In the end, have to agree with Mid... DKP still the best..
Everything clear cut, you got points you win, you no points can go eat grass...
*raise hand sheepishly*
simi ish DKP? :P
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Originally posted by tare:
*raise hand sheepishly*
simi ish DKP? :P
DKP is Dragon Kill Points .. The system come from the game "Everquest"
Its like when u come early for raid, do extra stuff u will get extra points.. U leave raid halfway or come late or do stupid stuff deduct pts .. Most high-end guild use DKP.
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Originally posted by Shermalingam:
Ah council loot... Then sure alot of pple kpkb over loot right?I'm using a weighted rolls system where rank = +bonus to rolls
Ya, alot of drama .. Some rage /gquit some keep kpkb but in the end all will solve lol. Sometimes i also emo over BiS loots but 1 or 2hr later ok liao LOL.
As for EoE keys .. Get all your officer to get it first.. Then give to normal members lo .. Let them know . It's the key that is imprt thing .. If i give a person who dun usually come for raid then wat for i give him when i need the key for EoE.
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Originally posted by Midlusionz:
DKP is Dragon Kill Points .. The system come from the game "Everquest"
Its like when u come early for raid, do extra stuff u will get extra points.. U leave raid halfway or come late or do stupid stuff deduct pts .. Most high-end guild use DKP.
u mean RL must keep track of all these???!!! o.O -
Originally posted by Midlusionz:
Ya, alot of drama .. Some rage /gquit some keep kpkb but in the end all will solve lol. Sometimes i also emo over BiS loots but 1 or 2hr later ok liao LOL.
As for EoE keys .. Get all your officer to get it first.. Then give to normal members lo .. Let them know . It's the key that is imprt thing .. If i give a person who dun usually come for raid then wat for i give him when i need the key for EoE.
tat's only logical mah... GM -> RL / Officers -> Core -> Members
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Originally posted by tare:
u mean RL must keep track of all these???!!! o.OAn addon will do it i think
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Originally posted by tare:
tat's only logical mah... GM -> RL / Officers -> Core -> Members
Yes, that was the whole damn point... it's only for the damn key...Now some "normal" members are saying "We have to kill Saph another 17 times before i'll even get a chance to roll on it..."
Zzzz... don't understand... isn't it good enough we're rolling on EVERYTHING else....
Tare: DKP can be updated through 3rd party mods nowadays... and you can link it to guild websites so everyone can check how many points they have...
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Originally posted by tare:
tat's only logical mah... GM -> RL / Officers -> Core -> Members
Not all think so.
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Is there a reason why GM and RL roles are always separated? I'm the GM as well as RL for my guild... My SG friend calls me Lee Kuan Yew cos I control everything...
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Originally posted by Shermalingam:
Yes, that was the whole damn point... it's only for the damn key...Now some "normal" members are saying "We have to kill Saph another 17 times before i'll even get a chance to roll on it..."
Zzzz... don't understand... isn't it good enough we're rolling on EVERYTHING else....
Tare: DKP can be updated through 3rd party mods nowadays... and you can link it to guild websites so everyone can check how many points they have...
okie thot want the RL to die keeping track of everything hahahahahahaalast nite my guild run naxx25... with 1 need 1 greed rule and no vent no loot! hahahahahaha initially we dun even have these... it's like we just run instances and wat nots, to help gear each other up de... we just help gear up the tanks and healers 1st then the dps... i like it then, everyone see the big pic...
but as guild grow, yah lah got more ppl will QQ... hence the rules...
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Originally posted by tare:
okie thot want the RL to die keeping track of everything hahahahahahaalast nite my guild run naxx25... with 1 need 1 greed rule and no vent no loot! hahahahahaha initially we dun even have these... it's like we just run instances and wat nots, to help gear each other up de... we just help gear up the tanks and healers 1st then the dps... i like it then, everyone see the big pic...
but as guild grow, yah lah got more ppl will QQ... hence the rules...
No vent....
Yeah... they just don't see that we're farming everything now and it will come sooner or later...
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Originally posted by Shermalingam:
Is there a reason why GM and RL roles are always separated? I'm the GM as well as RL for my guild... My SG friend calls me Lee Kuan Yew cos I control everything...
both have diff jobscope mah.. no pt making GM the RL if he can't RL rite?B wasn't RL when he was GM... but current GM is also one of the RL (he was RL b4 he was made GM anw)...
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Originally posted by Shermalingam:
No vent....
Yeah... they just don't see that we're farming everything now and it will come sooner or later...
my guild got 2 :P the inital few bought one when we started... and one who joined our guild later got his own vent also...so KS... are they all singaporeans? hahahahahaa
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Originally posted by tare:
my guild got 2 :P the inital few bought one when we started... and one who joined our guild later got his own vent also...so KS... are they all singaporeans? hahahahahaa
No leh, in fact the most KS ones are ang mohs...Question is, why form a raiding guild if you can't raid lead?
Nvm moot point, not many people are as talented as I am... hehe
I'm GM, RL and top DPS rolled into one...
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Originally posted by Shermalingam:
No leh, in fact the most KS ones are ang mohs...Question is, why form a raiding guild if you can't raid lead?
Nvm moot point, not many people are as talented as I am... hehe
I'm GM, RL and top DPS rolled into one...
share the load so no one single person will burn out mah... plus we wanted the guild to be casual and not just run on 1 person...issit? i very out of touch with all the QQs in guild hahahahahaa i like to keep it tat way too :P
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my guild uses the dkp cost system. I'll explain here see if u guys think its fair anot.
Each item is assigned a fixed dkp cost. Like trinkets are 12 dkp, tier tokens are 36 dkp and so on. If a person wants to "buy" an item, they will simply pm "bid" to the ML. The ML/RL will then compare which of the bidders has the highest dkp for his character and the loot will then go to the winner. There is no difference between ranks too. Each person that turns up for raids gets EXACTLY the same dkp (unless deducted for whatever reasons like late, severe cock-up, train set, etc. etc) so as long as you turn up for raids consistently, u can get more dkp than those even if they are officer and u can outbid them for items. There are situations that the officers would decide who gets the loot though. Mainly when they find that a player is not taking any loot for himself because he wants to horde his dkp, they will force loot to him. Or when someone has taken ALOT of gear and the gear he is bidding for is only a "minor" upgrade, they might loot it to someone needs it as a major upgrade. Non gear items like keys are usually given to the tanks first (they are not RL/ML tho) then rolled for by the raid once all the tanks have the key.
I prefer this loot system because as long as you put in efforts to turn up consistently, you will get a chance to loot. Moreover, it represents a communist system whereby everybody is equal regardless of rank (although communism would not work in RL)
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As long its DKP its forever fair unless the price for items is fuck ex.
DKP = fairness imo.