Okie, this tuition mania has gone too far ! ....
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I'm glad my time is over
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Originally posted by SevenEleven:
I'm glad my time is over
wait for your grandkids
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Originally posted by charlize:
Times are bad.
Times are not bad yet in this industry
Can still choose and pick students
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i fail to see the use of tuition at all...
"education" has degenerated into "who has more marks"
no one actually learns anything except the principles of machiavelli..
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i had tution once.. I requested it and it worked for me...
its for myself.. i entered JC only in April ( I missed Jan-Mar ) and I chose Maths C (science class).
My 1st maths paper : 0/50, my very 1st failure test... what
Wis a octangen ? I went what the ***? I was clueless..
I always get straight As for my Mathematics E, but i never learnt Maths A before, and blur blur embarked on Maths C.
I engaged a tutor (along with my other friends, same plight as me), tution twice a week, we studied every day and forced the 2years secondary school Maths A to our brain within 6 months.
finally end of the JC first year, i got all the Maths A understood and sorted out, caught up with my Maths C and passed it finally with pleasing scores...
boy...that is one big challenge.
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Originally posted by Fatum:
What the ........
I'd have posted this under the weird and insane news thread ... but I think this deserves a thread of it's own .... since some of us may see that looming in our future ..... !!!
Parents take tuition to keep up with kid's homework ....
IT'S not just the students who need extra coaching when it comes to their schoolwork.
Indeed, homework is getting so tough now that parents themselves are signing up for workshops and classes to learn how to better coach their children, reported Lianhe Wanbao.
Parents who tutor their own primary school kids are increasingly stumped by the level of difficulty in the homework dished out to their children.
Singaporeans living up to their kiasuism...
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Originally posted by hisoka:
wait for your grandkids
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Originally posted by the Bear:
i fail to see the use of tuition at all...
"education" has degenerated into "who has more marks"
no one actually learns anything except the principles of machiavelli..
Tuition is there because MOE schools are not good enough, in terms of quality (too much wayang-ing around, tutors aim straight for understanding and results, no need to report or wayang to anyone else above), in terms of time (teachers are overworked, saddled with admin and non-teaching stuff 2/3 of the time, so if like to teach, might as well be a tutor), and in terms of student teachers ratio (renumeration is rather low for the hours put in and the stress involved, might as well be a tutor).
So quite sad lor... Teachers are like sergeants in army, up face officers, down face attitude recruits (in bulk)... And office politics is more rampant as compared to being a tutor... I've even heard of stories of teachers turning their students' grades from bad to extremely good, and then being backstabbed and rumoured about after that they must have released the questions to the students before the exams...
And most schools actually drill students in memorizing (and some application)... I don't like the way schools teach students at A levels... I emphasize flexibility through concept understanding, then drilling on applying the flexibility... not dead set formula usage only by drilling... Not sure how to explain in words here...
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Originally posted by the Bear:
i fail to see the use of tuition at all...
"education" has degenerated into "who has more marks"
no one actually learns anything except the principles of machiavelli..
The syllabus now is hellish, and they've started incorporating aspects of the A Level syllabus into the O Level syllabus.... believe it or not. For instance, I only learnt 3D geometry in Maths C, but I was forced to tutor that to my cousin for her E Maths.
And frankly speaking..... at times, I have serious problems with the way some concepts are taught in schools. Like for that aforementioned 3D geometry, for instance, the kids were forced to solve 3D trigo problems by visualizing in three dimensions! They were never taught to project 3D problems onto 2D space!
This is nonsense.... I'm a friggin' mechanical engineer, and I still manually solve many 3D problems by decomposing them to 2D first! Not surprisingly, my cousin (and many of her classmates) struggled with it.
So I taught my cousin how to project 3D geometry onto a 2D plane. She understood what I taught her immediately, and she was soon able to laugh it off as 'ridiculously easy'.
As I told her..... 'What I just taught you is simply what my JC lecturers taught me.'
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Originally posted by eagle:
Tuition is there because MOE schools are not good enough, in terms of quality (too much wayang-ing around, tutors aim straight for understanding and results, no need to report or wayang to anyone else above), in terms of time (teachers are overworked, saddled with admin and non-teaching stuff 2/3 of the time, so if like to teach, might as well be a tutor), and in terms of student teachers ratio (renumeration is rather low for the hours put in and the stress involved, might as well be a tutor).
So quite sad lor... Teachers are like sergeants in army, up face officers, down face attitude recruits (in bulk)... And office politics is more rampant as compared to being a tutor... I've even heard of stories of teachers turning their students' grades from bad to extremely good, and then being backstabbed and rumoured about after that they must have released the questions to the students before the exams...
And most schools actually drill students in memorizing (and some application)... I don't like the way schools teach students at A levels... I emphasize flexibility through concept understanding, then drilling on applying the flexibility... not dead set formula usage only by drilling... Not sure how to explain in words here...
I'll sum up everything in a sentence for you ....
Bonus + Promotion = Key Performance Indicators...
but it's sad really .... this is really a reflection of the psyche of Singapore's society .....
or, at the very least, a reflection of how the powers-that-be thinks ....
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Originally posted by the Bear:
sometimes i wonder if we should get the ministar of MOE and torture him to death? or the parents ought to be slapped repeatedly?
the people who tuition their children to death are just giving them a lot of paper qualifications and depriving their children of the street-smarts which will actually help them lead a balanced and happy life..
Torture both parties. =D
Tell me when you're getting it on yeah. I'm raring to join. X)
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Originally posted by LOTUSfairy:
maybe i am wrong,
so far i see, the parents who pushes their kids further than they can cope, the parents are not as high educated and do not understand the system. So they push their children to attend every subjects every tution, so they dun miss out anything, just in case..
Just like the Polish and Soviet strategic aim (and later the German one) early in WW2 of clinging onto every single bit of territory, and deploying their (at times limited troops) based on this thinking. All while their top brass knew hardly a thing about tactics and strategy, not understanding the systems of modern armed conflict. =)
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Originally posted by fudgester:
The syllabus now is hellish, and they've started incorporating aspects of the A Level syllabus into the O Level syllabus.... believe it or not. For instance, I only learnt 3D geometry in Maths C, but I was forced to tutor that to my cousin for her E Maths.
And frankly speaking..... at times, I have serious problems with the way some concepts are taught in schools. Like for that aforementioned 3D geometry, for instance, the kids were forced to solve 3D trigo problems by visualizing in three dimensions! They were never taught to project 3D problems onto 2D space!
This is nonsense.... I'm a friggin' mechanical engineer, and I still manually solve many 3D problems by decomposing them to 2D first! Not surprisingly, my cousin (and many of her classmates) struggled with it.
So I taught my cousin how to project 3D geometry onto a 2D plane. She understood what I taught her immediately, and she was soon able to laugh it off as 'ridiculously easy'.
As I told her..... 'What I just taught you is simply what my JC lecturers taught me.'
So did your cousin go back and share this "secret method" with her classmates? X)
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Originally posted by Stimulatedfib:
So did your cousin go back and share this "secret method" with her classmates? X)
I don't know, but I'll be proud of her if she did.
Knowledge is meant to be shared and not hoarded in an attempt to get A1s.
I didn't teach her any 'secret method'.... all I did was to teach her something that the syllabus really should have taught her in the first place.
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Originally posted by fudgester:
I don't know, but I'll be proud of her if she did.
Knowledge is meant to be shared and not hoarded in an attempt to get A1s.
I didn't teach her any 'secret method'.... all I did was to teach her something that the syllabus really should have taught her in the first place.
In short, the teacher should be whacked. X)
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Originally posted by Stimulatedfib:
In short, the teacher should be whacked. X)
Not the teacher.
The syllabus didn't even seem to have that method.
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Originally posted by fudgester:
Not the teacher.
The syllabus didn't even seem to have that method.
But if the teacher gone through A levels before, he/she should know of the method.
Hmm... should shell the home of whoever came up with the syllabus, then. =\
Fire for effect!! XD
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education is overrated
look at idiots being churned out that have straight As!!!!!
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Originally posted by Stimulatedfib:
But if the teacher gone through A levels before, he/she should know of the method.
Hmm... should shell the home of whoever came up with the syllabus, then. =\
Fire for effect!! XD
most of the teachers are just dumped into that position. Some of them may not even have been good at the subject they teach, or in some cases never even taken that subject.
You could argue that the teacher should have done sufficient research, etc, but that's a little scrapping the bottom of the barrel. Especially if the syllabus wants them to teach in the 3d visualisation method.
anyway it might be a good thing to make them learn ins 3d visualisation. mightbe a way to improve their thought processes and visualisation.
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Originally posted by kopiosatu:
education is overrated
look at idiots being churned out that have straight As!!!!!
Education != intelligence.....
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"education" today is about getting certs. In whatever way is likely to produce the best results.
Sadly, not about learning.
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Originally posted by hisoka:
most of the teachers are just dumped into that position. Some of them may not even have been good at the subject they teach, or in some cases never even taken that subject.
You could argue that the teacher should have done sufficient research, etc, but that's a little scrapping the bottom of the barrel. Especially if the syllabus wants them to teach in the 3d visualisation method.
anyway it might be a good thing to make them learn ins 3d visualisation. mightbe a way to improve their thought processes and visualisation.
From what fudgester says I think all that's resulting is stumped thinking. XP
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Originally posted by fudgester:
Not the teacher.
The syllabus didn't even seem to have that method.
3D question in trigonometry has been excluded from the "O" level E.Maths syllabus now.
You might have taught your cousin to solve earlier years TYS questions that still include these questions.
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I just read this. Maybe some parents weren't educated to the levels that are now being taught to kids earlier, or weren't good at it (so they majored in something else). I remember that my form teacher in P6 held a one-day seminar for parents on how to solves Maths problem sums.
How do tutors keep abreast of the syllabus, besides looking at what their pupils are given? Will tutors eventually need to go for upgrading courses?
Some parents want to prove that their children is "gifted", while others want theirs to avoid the former EM3/Normal Stream route. All this is contributing to the high migration and low birth rates.
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Originally posted by Lee012lee:
3D question in trigonometry has been excluded from the "O" level E.Maths syllabus now.
You might have taught your cousin to solve earlier years TYS questions that still include these questions.
I taught her last year. It was in the syllabus then.