Club 30's "Kill the Boredom Demon" Jive Pad 155th Edition
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I find it very sad that it has come to this....
MOM is taking steps to address workplace discrimination against locals
Everywhere else around the world, you have government agencies taking steps to address discrimination based on gender, race, criminal records, etc. When they address nationality-based discrimination, they do so to improve employment opportunities for truly talented foreign nationals.
Only here in Singapore is government intervention needed to address the preference for foreigners over local citizens.
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But from MNC's POV, it makes perfect sense to hire someone who can perform, who can accept lower pay, and most of all, already has experience of living abroad and showing no qualms about uprooting as is common with many MNC posts.
Speaking at the close of the MOM’s Committee of Supply debate yesterday, Mr Tan said: “We do not require global firms to give preferential treatment to locals, but they must be fair to Singaporeans. There must be equal opportunities for our people whether at hiring or in advancement.”
Seriously I think MOM is barking up the wrong tree then.
I still think most of us locals are just really lacking in competitiveness against many FTs.
Seriously.
It might not be the locals' fault, but its the locals' lot anyway to try and fight this scourge.
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In the end isn't the root of our problem still this huge reliance on MNCs?
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It's not that they are not fair to locals... Just that with cheaper workers who are willing to work long hours etc, we are forced to lower ourselves into that standard or face being jobless...
The same theory goes for the GeBIZ that the Gov is using... By letting ppl try to compete with each other with lower bid, they can ensure the cheapest price to buy stuff...
In the end, the MIW is only interested in supressing wages so that labour here would be cheap and investors will flock over...
NOTE: MIW is only interested in keeping our pay low with more competition...
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And skill upgrade will not help that much... We know ppl dun hire ppl that are over-qualified...
For example, u need a engineer... Local $2600 vs Foreign $1800...
Gov ask u to upgrade ur skills so that u can be competitive, so u go upgrade ur skills... But in the end company still will prefer the foreigner coz the skills u went to upgrade, they might have no need for it...
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Late for my lunch appt... from resturant downgrade into burger king... abit sianx -____-
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If there was anything my 4 years in NUS taught me, it was how seriously locals here can be out-gunned by the FT horde.
Even if the FTs themselves do not necessarily demand less pay, their skill-set and drive still put many of us to shame.
And as I recall, even our good old "local" institution such as Risk Management Institute(NUS) once had 10 interns.....only one of which was local.
THAT is how uncompetitive locals are by comparison when it comes to popular jobs.
Will the whinging of many locals save themselves?
I'm not hopeful.
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Originally posted by SBS2601D:
But from MNC's POV, it makes perfect sense to hire someone who can perform, who can accept lower pay, and most of all, already has experience of living abroad and showing no qualms about uprooting as is common with many MNC posts.
Speaking at the close of the MOM’s Committee of Supply debate yesterday, Mr Tan said: “We do not require global firms to give preferential treatment to locals, but they must be fair to Singaporeans. There must be equal opportunities for our people whether at hiring or in advancement.”
Seriously I think MOM is barking up the wrong tree then.
I still think most of us locals are just really lacking in competitiveness against many FTs.
Seriously.
It might not be the locals' fault, but its the locals' lot anyway to try and fight this scourge.
I will have to agree that many locals are just whiners who can't take a bit of competition (you know I have been teaching for four years).
But the point here is what happens when you put one local and one foreign guy together, all objective factors constant (eg. qualifications, experience), and subjective factors like the drive to succeed constant as well.
There will be cases where given such a scenario, the foreign-born hiring manager chooses the foreign talent out of nothing more than looking out for his countrymen, ceteris paribus.
And unfortunately, some employers do think of it as 'Must pay CPF for Singaporeans and must release them for ICT/RT/IPPT, while there's no CPF and reservist liabilities for foreigners'. In which case, from the viewpoint of $$$$, it would make more sense for the employer to hire foreigners.... which is precisely the kind of thing that needs to be opposed.
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Actually after taking up the ST and looking carefully at the implementation....all I can say is that I took it out of context.
It seems that the policy change was to prevent the case of companies employing a local "for fun" (with the lowest wage imaginable), just so that they can employ a properly paid FT, due to the 1-for-1 local-FT ratio.
Ok, so I see nothing wrong with that.
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Lunch was fun... Food was unhealthy, not fufilling but the lunch catch-up was sooo enjoyable that I forgot the time...
Nvm on the fast food lunch... I'm heading off next week for 2 weeks holidays in the Land of AIEEEEEE~~~
Ohhhh, the stuff that I can eat, the stuff that I can eat... The stuff that I can eat!!! I'm sooooooooooooooooooo excited...
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I look forward to eating fried lizards soon.
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Originally posted by fudgester:
I will have to agree that many locals are just whiners who can't take a bit of competition (you know I have been teaching for four years).
But the point here is what happens when you put one local and one foreign guy together, all objective factors constant (eg. qualifications, experience), and subjective factors like the drive to succeed constant as well.
There will be cases where given such a scenario, the foreign-born hiring manager chooses the foreign talent out of nothing more than looking out for his countrymen, ceteris paribus.
And unfortunately, some employers do think of it as 'Must pay CPF for Singaporeans and must release them for ICT/RT/IPPT, while there's no CPF and reservist liabilities for foreigners'. In which case, from the viewpoint of $$$$, it would make more sense for the employer to hire foreigners.... which is precisely the kind of thing that needs to be opposed.
Focusing on these cases won't make the problem go away altogether. The NS and CPF are real concerns for these employers.
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Reading this post made me very sad....
I am actually old enough to remember many of these places.
Singapore’s Vanished Markets and Hawker Centres
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How come I remember eating at Gluttons Square in the 90s when it was closed in the late 70s? Hmmm.
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Originally posted by Kuali Baba:
How come I remember eating at Gluttons Square in the 90s when it was closed in the late 70s? Hmmm.
I asked this question few months ago...They redo an "imitation" gluttons square beside somerset MRT, which should be Orchard Central now... It used to be a parking space...
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Originally posted by SBS2601D:
Reading this post made me very sad....
I am actually old enough to remember many of these places.
Singapore’s Vanished Markets and Hawker Centres
yes....I'm remembered almost all of them :( -
Go Stun
- Original Meaning: Reversing of a boat (go astern, English)
- Local Meaning: Reversing of any vehicles
Go stun is a corrupted version of the English phrase “go astern” which means to move a boat backwards from the currents or winds.
The local borrowed it and described it to the reversing of any vehicles on the road.
The phrase might have evolved from “go astern” to “go stern” and finally “go stun”.
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dont forget this: brake
when the proper phrase should be: apply the brakes
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Originally posted by cassie:
dont forget this: brake
when the proper phrase should be: apply the brakes
Brake is also a verb that all the commentators use (including the foreign ones).
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yeah i know. think this is one word/phrase i could ignore...
what riles me are some of papers i had to review - sometimes i feel like taking a red inked pen and doing an english teacher marking!
ok, rant over. morning guys
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Originally posted by fudgester:
I find it very sad that it has come to this....
MOM is taking steps to address workplace discrimination against locals
Everywhere else around the world, you have government agencies taking steps to address discrimination based on gender, race, criminal records, etc. When they address nationality-based discrimination, they do so to improve employment opportunities for truly talented foreign nationals.
Only here in Singapore is government intervention needed to address the preference for foreigners over local citizens.
They need to tell you that hdb flats are affordable.
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Apparently McDonalds is giving out free McMuffins this morning.
The one next to my office currently has long crowds.
One canteen auntie urged me to join the queue.
No way, I say. Time is money. I figure that by waiting in the queue, I actually lose out in the long run.
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You've got to be stupid to stand for 3 hours in a queue for that kind of shit.
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Posted by av on his FB wall:
5 am? Dafug.
Freak lah, I would gladly pay the $2.70 that the Egg McMuffin normally costs just to get an extra couple of hours of sleep so that I can be more productive later on.