Glad to hear that i am not the only one that feels that way. And whether you like it anot, most pro shops are really not professional as they should be!! That is a very different scenario like the US where the pro shops are really very qualified in terms of ball knowledge and stuff, and not just behave like "durian sellers' as some pro shops in singapore do. Telling you this ball good, that ball good, but when you ask them "why good?" they come up with some stupid answers.Originally posted by harmzuay:Very good points are raised here. I will agree that a mojority of drillers locally are not up to scratch. And often they will not be able to extract the most out of a ball.
Fortunately, though. There are a handful who know what they are doing. And are very happy to discuss ball drilling technicalities and dynamics with you. Ultimately, its what make you comfortable - some bowlers are happy in the light of their own ignorance and do not want a driller who will speak in ball jargon; whilst others (such as myself) will entertain only a driller who can discuss drilling layouts in detail before implementing any of them.
I would like to highlight that: a lot of bowlers in Singapore are of the what-I-don't-know-can't-hurt-me variety. It is due to this fact that I wouldn't really blame the drillers. I have known a few good drillers who have left the business/struggling to get by because the supply outstrips the demand.
So, food for thought.
or most commonly "Uncle drill max hook".Did you really hear that? Damn... I'd struggle to contain my laughter if I heard that exact phrase used.
160??! Good luck man!!Originally posted by jameskoh:anyone interested to play in Yishun League?
looking for 160 players
ya thats true, i stil remember when i just pick up bowling, i also choose the ball that i think looks good. But after many times of ball purchase and pro shop hopping, i get to know the real stuff about bowling. i just think it is unfortunate for bowlers wanabe to just go into the shop and be at the mercy of the ball driller, when some of these drillers are not pro at all. So actually we really need to push for higher standards for these drillers, it will not be very pleasant if the level of expertise remains this lowOriginally posted by prataman:Sometimes, it can't be helped.
The majority of bowlers are just casual bowlers and don't really do much research into the finer details such as RG, Differential and all that jazz. Hence they can't challenge what ball drillers say, but instead take it as gospel. "What he says sure correct lah, he ball driller you know".
Furthermore, I sit in pro shops lounging around, and most people walk to get either the prettiest ball, or "uncle, which one hooks most"....... or most commonly "Uncle drill max hook".
So sometimes drillers aren't "pushed" to really know their stuff to an deeper extent. As long as they just learn to punch 3 holes in a ball in the stacked leverage position is enough for many consumers.
this is a nice jokeOriginally posted by harmzuay:Or, "Uncle, I want to bowl on Lane 14, but strike on Lane 13." (Right-handed)
Originally posted by Chris10:hee.. some balls need to be "seasoned" to get it to be consistent.. some will be more consistent when its more dull ..
is ur new ball with high glossy polish? cos the polish does make things harder sometimes..
you can try interactive bowling at ground floor of kim seng plaza, but must call him first, cos he is very busy one, usually have endless ball waiting for him to drill, or away for coaching. The next that u can consider is walter at superbowl marina. but he quite attitude sometimes, see people one.Originally posted by Chris10:so does anyone has any good pro shop that is good in drilling to recommend??
firstly you should read wat is written on the bottle of spray, it should write wat is contained inside the bottle, usually is ball cleaner. if it says "polish" then you bought the wrong spray. if it did not write anything, dump the spray cos god knows wat is inside. then buy a proper ball cleaner from pro shops, like energizer cleaner from ebonite, or cleaners from storm, more trusted name.Originally posted by the Bear:i'm a casual bowler... beginner in the ways of hook...
this may be off topic..
had an old ball from somewhere, it served me well but it was replugged many times as the previous owner kept redrilling until he probably got frustrated and it became mine..
so i got a new ball... and the fella at the pro shop said i should get a bottle of stuff to spray and clean the ball everytime i'm finished using the ball...
well, the first time using that ball, it bit like nobody's business... extreme right arrow, and it ended up in the left gutter... spooked the heck outta me coz the old ball never hooked that much...
so i adjusted and started off left, let it go right and the hook left again.. got kinda used to it by the end of the 8 games i bowled that day...
went home, cleaned the ball with the spray as instructed...
however, the next week, the ball did not even hook... could see the ball rotating like mad but it never went into that axis... it just kept going straight... it wasn't the lane coz with the old ball, it bit and hooked too...
question is: did i just screw up my new ball with the spray? if so, can i get another spray-cleaner thing or do i go attempt to wash my new ball?
sorry for the long story.. need help
dun rush into asking the ball driller to make your thumb hole bigger, this is a very common problem when people buy new ball, they will tend to squeeze their thumb during ball delivery, which causes friction, and the end result is the thumb swell and get stuck. so try to practice confidence with your ball, dun grip or squeeze your thumb too tightly, relax your thumb. alternatively you can use high latex tape to tape the top half of your thumb(the side with thumbnail). Do not tape the whole thumb!!! that is not recommended. it will reduce friction and hence prevent swelling.Originally posted by Chris10:oh ya.. about the thumb thing.. i think u should go back to the shop and tell them about this problem.. maybe the person will make it bigger..
thumb get struck will make ur game really bad.. cos clean thumb release is most impt..