go werk,save enough money n then goto overseas uni in europe or oz.
there are some people from malaysia who study engineering overseas in oz n get a masters degree n yet cant speak english correctly even.
then there are people who study in NTU and many of them failed despite having brilliant o levels n A levels.
if u want to be a medical doctor then im not experienced in giving u that advice.
Originally posted by MrCloneMaster:
i agree that maths can be practised.. but isnt jc student have a much better head start than poly's student? and i have no qualm about the practical you said.. we do have better headstart :)
Depending on the course TS is intending to go into. There are advantages and disadvantages for people from either instituition and alot depends on how much effort they put in to counter their 'weakness'
Anyway, i can assure you even though JC students have done H2 maths, it does not mean they are surely better in uni maths. I still have seen JC girls who just graduated from JC to go uni and do very badly in their maths.
Originally posted by Babelfish:I think you just too worked up over ur prelim results.. O lvls are marked rather leniently and as long as u understand and can apply what u have learnt it will be alright..
Of course u can be the kiasu kiasee chiongsters who thinks that poly is a dealth sentence.
wth lol x.x
so how ?? TS poly or JC ?
i also taking my Os :D
If you take engineering, you will still have to study physics and engineering maths :]
Depends on what kind of engineering you take, some of them include programming. :]
Don't worry about the school fees, they can be deducted from your parent's CPF, which you will then repay them when you start working. There are plenty of grants , bursaries. If your results are good enough, you can apply to be a scholar.
Life in poly is, I would say, Fun. You work hard (yes, you do have to study hard) and you play hard. (everything can be found in campus - that includes LAN gaming, Swimming pools, jogging tracks, tennis courts ,K box ect ect.)
School hours for mine, start at 8.30am in the mornings and end at about 5pm in the evenings with a 1 to 1 1/2 hour of lunch break in between). There would be days where lectures/ practicals/tutorials start later, and end earlier. This has to depend on the course that you will take.
For Engineering, there are 3 types of lessons - Lectures, Practicals and Tutorials.
Lecturers are normal secondary school teaching.
Practicals go hand in hand with lectures, which enable you to practice/proof what you have learnt during the lectures.
Tutorials are periods where you would have free time with your lecturer to ask Questions, do assignments.
Now, you might wonder what is the main difference from being in Secondary school.
This would be quite a big transition.
The main difference is, that you are given the freedom to do whatever you like. (Msn/Facebook/Gaming). However, at the end of the day, slacking all the long, will cause you to struggle, and get bad grades.
CCAs are normally in the late afternoons/ evenings or weekends.
I have never regretted going into poly. :]
Cheers
Kenneth
Year 1, Polytechnic Student.
I would think poly is better than JC because you can get a diploma , and if you want to get into the university , you just need to work hard, I've come across many poly students who are in NUS now and they mentioned that its not that difficult to get in. Further more, in poly you will be doing a course that you like, compared to in JC where you will be studying the standard subjects... just my 2 cents worth
From what you say, I must be very independent to do well in poly right?
Ahhh, I regret not studying hard during sec school days... I have not been studying at all all the while. Its a miracle I can actually get 20 for L1R5.
Go in poly cannot be influenced by friends eh, from what I heard, there are many so called bad friends in poly that always ask friends to go out play play.
Originally posted by Han chiang:From what you say, I must be very independent to do well in poly right?
Ahhh, I regret not studying hard during sec school days... I have not been studying at all all the while. Its a miracle I can actually get 20 for L1R5.
Go in poly cannot be influenced by friends eh, from what I heard, there are many so called bad friends in poly that always ask friends to go out play play.
Poly you can play hard as well as study hard. Its exactly the same as uni so if you feel you cannot handle that, go local uni it won't change and i would say local uni often students are more wild.
Poly lecturers will rarely chase you to do your tutorials, if you don't do thats your problem so you need be discipline to do your own work but the workload is ALOT less than JC.
Originally posted by dkcx:Poly you can play hard as well as study hard. Its exactly the same as uni so if you feel you cannot handle that, go local uni it won't change and i would say local uni often students are more wild.
Poly lecturers will rarely chase you to do your tutorials, if you don't do thats your problem so you need be discipline to do your own work but the workload is ALOT less than JC.
so all in all..not much difference between Poly and Uni?
Originally posted by One Harmonius Blend:so all in all..not much difference between Poly and Uni?
In terms of the life i would say is similar except uni can be more while especially if you stay on campus.The workload is also alot greater.
As a uni undergrad, i would say i still prefer my poly days in terms of education.
I think your English is actually okay, but I believe you have a mental barrier in the language - a lack of confidence. You think you are no good, therefore you become no good.
Probably, you don't know how to start in your composition/essay, not confident that you can actually write. Just get your pen and start writing. Do a simple intro and off you go! English is also a subject that can be studied and has to be studied and practised Not too late to learn. You can do it!
TS, your double maths and combined science scored A1, but you failed humanities and english.
Try as hard as you can for english, because achieving 3 A1s for sciences and maths is rather impressive and it shows you can be the "studying" sort, and that means that JC should be managable and better for you.
Practice TYS and read model essays for English.
I recommend JC and not Poly. Good luck.
Originally posted by dkcx:In terms of the life i would say is similar except uni can be more while especially if you stay on campus.The workload is also alot greater.
As a uni undergrad, i would say i still prefer my poly days in terms of education.
And to add on, Uni can be more pressurising than JC on the Project Work side, as JC has less project work-related stuffs. In JC, I just have to work hard, study, revise, and the results come quite naturally.
No doubt, for modules of my academic subject(Maths), I am doing very well. But when it comes to other teaching modules such as educational psychology and such, I have to worry about Presentations and such as I don't have that much experience in JC. Oh, and presentation of answers during JC doesn't really counts.
Originally posted by Dejomel:TS, your double maths and combined science scored A1, but you failed humanities and english.
Try as hard as you can for english, because achieving 3 A1s for sciences and maths is rather impressive and it shows you can be the "studying" sort, and that means that JC should be managable and better for you.
Practice TYS and read model essays for English.
I recommend JC and not Poly. Good luck.
If TS fails GP in JC, he cannot promote at all. Even if he gets As for all other subjects but fail GP, he still fails. Its safer for him to go poly where english is not something that will affect your pass/fail in poly. Even in uni, all you have to do is pass a basic english proficiency test and does not require really good english to get your degree.
Originally posted by Forbiddensinner:And to add on, Uni can be more pressurising than JC on the Project Work side, as JC has less project work-related stuffs. In JC, I just have to work hard, study, revise, and the results come quite naturally.
No doubt, for modules of my academic subject(Maths), I am doing very well. But when it comes to other teaching modules such as educational psychology and such, I have to worry about Presentations and such as I don't have that much experience in JC. Oh, and presentation of answers during JC doesn't really counts.
Uni project work depends on the modules. Engineering base modules tend to have less project work since there is the lab component. The arts and social science modules without lab are the 1s with alot of project work.
Originally posted by Forbiddensinner:If your aim is just to enter a local uni, then go ahead and aim to enter poly ( except RP ) instead. But do note that the downside is that if you regret later, you will also be unable to make a U-turn into other degree courses from other fields.
y RP out?
as in why cannot enter universities locally?
because RP no good lor... xD go ask darkness ~.~
Originally posted by Han chiang:From what you say, I must be very independent to do well in poly right?
Ahhh, I regret not studying hard during sec school days... I have not been studying at all all the while. Its a miracle I can actually get 20 for L1R5.
Go in poly cannot be influenced by friends eh, from what I heard, there are many so called bad friends in poly that always ask friends to go out play play.
self disciplined, and proper time management.
Originally posted by dkcx:Uni project work depends on the modules. Engineering base modules tend to have less project work since there is the lab component. The arts and social science modules without lab are the 1s with alot of project work.
yep, lesser.
Originally posted by One Harmonius Blend:so all in all..not much difference between Poly and Uni?
well, it's both labelled as tertiary institutions, and well apart from what u learn + workload, there's not much difference
Originally posted by One Harmonius Blend:y RP out?
as in why cannot enter universities locally?
Yes, the diplomas from RP can get you in to local unis.
But from what have been spreaded about thus far, RP diplomas are much less recognised, and MUCH fewer people from RP made it into local unis.
I am not too sure about the details, but it seem that the content in RP diploma courses has been watered down not too long ago.
Originally posted by Forbiddensinner:Yes, the diplomas from RP can get you in to local unis.
But from what have been spreaded about thus far, RP diplomas are much less recognised, and MUCH fewer people from RP made it into local unis.
I am not too sure about the details, but it seem that the content in RP diploma courses has been watered down not too long ago.
Another reason could be due to their O's results. RP tends to take in much weaker students compared to the other 4 polys.
For poly grad to enter uni, 25% of the score for uni admission comes from O's and 75% from poly results. This makes a student's O's very imporant for local uni entry as 25% is a very siginificant contribution.