hi guys, i am a newbie here so pls guide me along the way.b4 i start , let me introduce myself first.
i am currently a first year studuent at sp persuing a dip in a chemistry course.
i just received my first sem result and it is HORRIBLE.by horrible i mean it is freaking horrible although i passed all module.gpa is nt very fantastic around 1.9 ba
my qn is this--
with such a horrible first year first sem result, can i still go NUS?
1st of all.. it is not over unless u crossed the finishing line
have u ever thought why you did so badly for ur results? i would rather u find the reason why then from there adjust ur studying style. dun worry about nus thingy.. if u tried ur best and cant get in, life still have to go on right?
Last but not least, when i was in poly, my 1st yr result was also at the peak low. hope this bring some encouragement to you.. gd luck!
waiting for dkcx to reply. xD
or u retake sem lor ?
to be frank, its NO even if you score As for the next 5 sem.
@ Yihao Why must i reply leh :p Even though he is my SP junior la.
Anyway, poly semster cannot be retaken. A poor 1st sem results doesn't mean you are doom but it does mean you need to seriously work hard for your other semesters if you still want to get into uni. Currently about 3.3-3.4 is the minimum requirement to get into a chemistry course.
However regardless which of the chem course u are taking in SP since they have split the former DCP into 4 diff dip now, i would say the 1st yr contents are rather easy and revision base more than alot of new content. If you are not able to handle even them now, i really doubt you would ever be ready for uni.
Originally posted by eternalchocolate:hi guys, i am a newbie here so pls guide me along the way.b4 i start , let me introduce myself first.
i am currently a first year studuent at sp persuing a dip in a chemistry course.
i just received my first sem result and it is HORRIBLE.by horrible i mean it is freaking horrible although i passed all module.gpa is nt very fantastic around 1.9 ba
my qn is this--
with such a horrible first year first sem result, can i still go NUS?
Let me ask you a question then. If you think that you really shouldn't continue on this diploma course, then where do you want to go, and where else can you go?
After your 1st year, if your results are still the same, then I will say it is really time for you to consider my question above.
Originally posted by Forbiddensinner:Let me ask you a question then. If you think that you really shouldn't continue on this diploma course, then where do you want to go, and where else can you go?
After your 1st year, if your results are still the same, then I will say it is really time for you to consider my question above.
If he can't handle poly workload, its even less likely he can handle JC workload. Do u suggest he goes to ITE instead?
I am unsure whether you can still apply to MOE for tuition grant if you change a dip etc as well. The full poly fees are not exactly cheap.
Originally posted by dkcx:If he can't handle poly workload, its even less likely he can handle JC workload. Do u suggest he goes to ITE instead?
I am unsure whether you can still apply to MOE for tuition grant if you change a dip etc as well. The full poly fees are not exactly cheap.
No la....jump course....
Edit: No point continuing on this course if he is going to get 2.0~ at the end of the day, 3 years wasted for nothing... $$ is one thing, but results is still > $$
you must understand that admission into a local university (and NUS at that) is difficult, even despite all the polys may say. if i'm not wrong, only the top 10-15% qualify for local universities, and even so, most end up in NTU or SMU. besides, its a fact that only about 20-30% of the primary one cohort end up one of the more established local universities (NUS, NTU, and SMU).
Do a little bit of calculation, taking the fact that you're from a poly, not a jc, into account.
perhaps it's time you settled for less?
Originally posted by Forbiddensinner:No la....jump course....
Edit: No point continuing on this course if he is going to get 2.0~ at the end of the day, 3 years wasted for nothing... $$ is one thing, but results is still > $$
Poly dip unlike uni degree is slightly less concern about GPA so as long as he gets his dip, he may not be able to go uni but he should still be able to get a job.
Originally posted by Vendettus:you must understand that admission into a local university (and NUS at that) is difficult, even despite all the polys may say. if i'm not wrong, only the top 10-15% qualify for local universities, and even so, most end up in NTU or SMU. besides, its a fact that only about 20-30% of the primary one cohort end up one of the more established local universities (NUS, NTU, and SMU).
Do a little bit of calculation, taking the fact that you're from a poly, not a jc, into account.perhaps it's time you settled for less?
Please update your facts. The amount of people getting into uni from poly is totally dependent on how well they themselves do and there is no % cap on the number of poly students getting into uni which is rising very significantly as the years go by with more and more top scorers deserting the JC route and taking the poly route.
Cannot get in already. Most common alternative is to get into oversea university.
Originally posted by dkcx:Please update your facts. The amount of people getting into uni from poly is totally dependent on how well they themselves do and there is no % cap on the number of poly students getting into uni which is rising very significantly as the years go by with more and more top scorers deserting the JC route and taking the poly route.
To add on on to this, the reason why much fewer people enter uni from poly in the past is that because many ( Not all -_- ) people who enter poly back then are those with the mindset that " I cannot enter JC, I don't want to go ITE " or " I want somewhere not as pressurizing as JC ", so they enter poly.
It is different nowadays, as many students see the advantages of entering a poly, so even 6 pointers choose poly over JC, and thus the people entering uni from poly are gradually increasing over the years.
lets avoid sidetracking from the main topic......
case in point, a marketing student a local polytechnic with a gpa of 3.8 couldn't make it to NUS, the student actually ranks within the top percentile of all poly graduates with a merit certificate.
now, this show that competition is much stiffer across all courses and uni requirements are tougher to meet. further, one main advantage which all JC students enjoy over poly students is they are given priority seats in Tertiary institutions.
This can be pinned down on the government subsidy that all local students are entitled to during the school registration process. Under the government subsidy, a student can have his school fees subsidized by more than half the actual course fees over 3 years.
The government subsidy kicks into action as soon as one is admitted into a polytechnic or university, but it doesn't apply to JC students. Thus, poly students would have enjoyed double the government subsidy if they were to enter a local university. It would not make economic sense to increase the proportion of poly students eligible to enter university even if they achieve excellent results.
Originally posted by UltimaOnline:It’s not just JC vs Poly. Don’t forget every year the number of foreign students applying for limited places in local Universities are increasing, year by year. It’s a global competition, not just JCs vs Polys.
Got peg-down percentage by government.
I think it is 20% or so. Usually it is much less than that though.
Originally posted by 2cansam:lets avoid sidetracking from the main topic......
case in point, a marketing student a local polytechnic with a gpa of 3.8 couldn't make it to NUS, the student actually ranks within the top percentile of all poly graduates with a merit certificate.
now, this show that competition is much stiffer across all courses and uni requirements are tougher to meet. further, one main advantage which all JC students enjoy over poly students is they are given priority seats in Tertiary institutions.
This can be pinned down on the government subsidy that all local students are entitled to during the school registration process. Under the government subsidy, a student can have his school fees subsidized by more than half the actual course fees over 3 years.
The government subsidy kicks into action as soon as one is admitted into a polytechnic or university, but it doesn't apply to JC students. Thus, poly students would have enjoyed double the government subsidy if they were to enter a local university. It would not make economic sense to increase the proportion of poly students eligible to enter university even if they achieve excellent results.
3.8 depends also on the courses he applies for. If you apply for business courses, they are alot harder to enter than trying for engineering or science courses so that is not definitel.
A course that someone from poly with 3.8 cannot enter, A A's student will also require AAA/B or so to enter since i got a friend who from JC getting AABB tried 3 years and still could not get into NTU accountancy even though he was long accepted by NUS.
Don't forget poly entry to uni looks at the O's as well. If you did badly for your O's then even 4.0 might not get you into the course when someone 3.8 got in just because the latter did alot better in O's.
Originally posted by Forbiddensinner:Got peg-down percentage by government.
I think it is 20% or so. Usually it is much less than that though.
20% is not cap by course though so courses like business has less and engineering has alot of them.
The influence of the foreigners can't be determined base on that 20% alone since it varies among all the courses.
to be frank, its NO even if you score As for the next 5 sem quoted from Patapon
how true is the above mentioned statement?
Originally posted by eternalchocolate:to be frank, its NO even if you score As for the next 5 sem quoted from Patapon
how true is the above mentioned statement?
Nah hes lying.
If you do get a perfect score for all the next 5 sems, you will get a GPA for about 3.6+
However, if you want a chance in uni. You will have to score about 3.7 for your next 5 sems on average to pull up your grades to 1 that gives you a chance in local uni. However that also depends on what is your O's results since that has a decently huge % in computing your score for uni entry.
Mind saying which dip you doing or pm me if you don't want to make it public.
just say the course here and all can discuss/see whatxzxzxz
Originally posted by yiha093:just say the course here and all can discuss/see whatxzxzxz
haha say the course liao u also nothing to discuss :p
U go focus on ur O's la. 1 month more to go but i see your forum, facebook etc etc activity similar with few months ago.
eh if i go do alevel chem can?
willl thjat help?
also fyi,i nt intending to quit this course,this may sound weird but i like mi coursedue to other factors that is why such fcked up results.
after reading so many comments by u guys,the rough idea o get from your is that forget NUS,u cant achieve it.if that is the cause,tmr newspaper may report girl commit suicide .haizz
o level horrible,first sem also kena sai.
make 1 mistake cannot go uni...
life is sad and tragic sia...
Originally posted by dkcx:haha say the course liao u also nothing to discuss :p
U go focus on ur O's la. 1 month more to go but i see your forum, facebook etc etc activity similar with few months ago.
aiya.. see my prelim results 1st... next wk get back alr... xD
after being in sgf for so long i know what will happen if i dun study~
Originally posted by eternalchocolate:eh if i go do alevel chem can?
willl thjat help?
also fyi,i nt intending to quit this course,this may sound weird but i like mi coursedue to other factors that is why such fcked up results.
after reading so many comments by u guys,the rough idea o get from your is that forget NUS,u cant achieve it.if that is the cause,tmr newspaper may report girl commit suicide .haizz
o level horrible,first sem also kena sai.
make 1 mistake cannot go uni...
life is sad and tragic sia...
You do know that taking A's means u need to do well in all your subjects and not just chemistry itself. Chem Eng regardless poly or uni requires quite good results to enter.
The reason better not be bf etc...
Cannot go local uni is not the end of the world. If it was, S'pore population will drop by 70-75% each year since only 25-30% of each cohort can get into uni.