E Maths: A1 is usually 78 or 79. A Maths: A1 is usually 75.
Working/Presentation carry lots of marks except for E Maths Paper 1, that is why some students felt they would have got a A1 after checking their answers after the exams, but in the end got only an A2 or B3, because more than 5 marks were deducted because of their working/presentation.
I've heard it can go as high up as 91 in some cases. Shocking!
the curve. the curve......
alotta ppl do bery well, they shift the mark higher.
if everyone do badly, they adjust lower.
so it depends on the paper (easy or difficult) and the cohort (good or bad)
Aim for 100/100. Like that dont need to compete against others. Just compete against yourself. And you know you must master every topic well.
Originally posted by HyuugaNeji:Aim for 100/100. Like that dont need to compete against others. Just compete against yourself. And you know you must master every topic well.
it can be done.
From cambridge's review, benchmark for A1 in E Maths seldomly went up to 80. But on average, Singapore candidates lost 5 to 10 marks because of the 'inproper' working steps. It is very common for you to check your numerical answers against your teacher and conclude you can get 90, but in the end a A2 only.
Example 1:
When you write AB=AC from a square ABCD, did you put a ( ) and state this reason 'ABCD is a square' in it? If you did not state or put a wrong reason such as 'given' in it, you lose 1 mark.
Example 2:
Here is a sample working:
x = 6/sin60
= 6.9282 (5.s.f) .......(1)
y = 4/sin30
= 8 .......(2)
x + y = 6.9282 + 8 ...(3)
= 14.9282 ...(4)
= 14.9cm (3.s.f) ...(5)
(1) must be curvy equal sign
(2) must be straight equal sign
(3) must be curvy equal sign
(4) must be straight equal sign
(5) must be curvy equal sign
one of these is wrong, you lost one mark for presentation
In (1) and (5), you have to indicate the number of s.f in a ( ), you lose one mark if you fail to do so.
If in this trigo-question, all lengths are given in cm, you foget to state your units or fail to give the correct unit, you lose one mark.
----- Of course all these are for paper 2 only -----
So do you know why when your numerical answer are 90% correct but your score may easily fall below 80?
A1 for both A&E mathes ish sup sup soi.
also, your working must be neat and clear and easy for the eye to get max mark.
@frekiwang
Wow are you kidding me ? Just a curly equals sign can cost you a mark?
Hi,
It will be good to refer to an example of a mark scheme used by Cambridge International. I have uploaded a question paper and its accompanying mark scheme for your reference:
QP (http://www.scribd.com/doc/67105811/4024-s11-qp-22)
MS (http://www.scribd.com/doc/67106029/4024-s11-ms-22)
Thanks.
Cheers,
Wen Shih
I am not kidding, even at A-level, it still costs a mark.
For the entire paper, 1 presentation mark is deductible for each type of presentation errors.
Insufficient/Wrong reasoning, presentation errors, inproper definition of new variables and etc, all these errors can easily accumulate up to 10+ marks if a student is not aware of them at all.
1 mark is limited for EACH TYPE of presentation error. However, there can be more than ten different types of presentation error from Paper 2 itself, including reasoning, brackets, no. of s.f, equal sign, unit and so on. Therefore, the upper limit for this deduction is around 15 to 20.
Originally posted by Okazaki:Hi I took O level last year.For O level E.Maths, A1>85 close to 90.I am not even kidding.I was shock when I hear this but after the E.Maths papers I checked my answers and I roughly scored around 85 but ended up A2.A Maths will be around 75-80.
Most accurate estimation so far.
I took the O' Levels in 2009. The E.Maths papers were so easy that you needed about 90% for an A1. Anything from 75-89% only got you an A2.
Comparatively, the A.Maths bell curve was not as steep for 2009 - I hit only about 70% for both papers and got an A2, but my friends (who got the same grade as me) claimed that an A1 was at about 80%.
@frekiwang - Thanks so much! Your suggestions really helped :)
Originally posted by frekiwang:From cambridge's review, benchmark for A1 in E Maths seldomly went up to 80. But on average, Singapore candidates lost 5 to 10 marks because of the 'inproper' working steps. It is very common for you to check your numerical answers against your teacher and conclude you can get 90, but in the end a A2 only.
Example 1:
When you write AB=AC from a square ABCD, did you put a ( ) and state this reason 'ABCD is a square' in it? If you did not state or put a wrong reason such as 'given' in it, you lose 1 mark.
Example 2:
Here is a sample working:
x = 6/sin60
= 6.9282 (5.s.f) .......(1)
y = 4/sin30
= 8 .......(2)
x + y = 6.9282 + 8 ...(3)
= 14.9282 ...(4)
= 14.9cm (3.s.f) ...(5)
(1) must be curvy equal sign(2) must be straight equal sign
(3) must be curvy equal sign
(4) must be straight equal sign
(5) must be curvy equal sign
one of these is wrong, you lost one mark for presentation
In (1) and (5), you have to indicate the number of s.f in a ( ), you lose one mark if you fail to do so.
If in this trigo-question, all lengths are given in cm, you foget to state your units or fail to give the correct unit, you lose one mark.
----- Of course all these are for paper 2 only -----
So do you know why when your numerical answer are 90% correct but your score may easily fall below 80?
Can you quote your sources? how come i've never heard any of my teachers telling me that? Throughout my 4years in education, none of my teacher has ever commented on such things. It could not be my school's fault because my school has been producing above national standards, so I really doubt your credibility..
. Pardon me but i only want your sources thanks!
Originally posted by Manukamon:Can you quote your sources? how come i've never heard any of my teachers telling me that? Throughout my 4years in education, none of my teacher has ever commented on such things. It could not be my school's fault because my school has been producing above national standards, so I really doubt your credibility..
. Pardon me but i only want your sources thanks!
Ya ya, u from good school. =)
Erm, how can your "school producing above national stds", equal to frekiwang got suspicious credibility?