post A levels woes
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1) Are Singapore universities (NUS/ NTU/ SMU) overrated??? 2) Is a degree from (NUS/NTU/SMU) recognized by employers overseas - it would be great if anyone can share any of their experiences :) 3) I was looking at Singstats and based on what i see, the general starting pay of fresh university graduates (NUS/NTU/SMU) in Singapore is around 2.8k+ --> is this true??? 4) It is easy for a (NUS/NTU/SMU) graduate (take engineering course for example) to find a job here in Singapore??? p.s. I just finished my a-levels and i'm full of doubts about what my future is going to be like T.T
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IF possible, study overseas and get a job and settle down there. Singapore future is bleak.
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Some foreigners with Masters degrees asking for $2k.
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must be from those third world countries like india, philippines, myanmmar.............
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Originally posted by charlize:
Some foreigners with Masters degrees asking for $2k.
damn spoil mkt
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seems like wages didnt really go up for the past few years
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depends wat industry lah
bus drivers' one going up u know
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1) Are Singapore universities (NUS/ NTU/ SMU) overrated???
They are decent, and they are cheap (as compared to going overseas). Less study loan to repay when you start working.
Employers base their pay on the degree and class of honours you are getting, and not by the name of the university. That being said, Singapore unis are set as the benchmark, so don't go off to an ulu ulu uni and expect the same employment prospects as local uni grads.
2) Is a degree from (NUS/NTU/SMU) recognized by employers overseas – it would be great if anyone can share any of their experiences
Yes, it is. But subjected to whether you have the opportunity to apply for a job overseas, taking into consideration of immigration requirements for each country.
3) I was looking at Singstats and based on what i see, the general starting pay of fresh university graduates (NUS/NTU/SMU) in Singapore is around 2.8k+—> is this true???
The level of pay will depend on your chosen profession and industry. Starting pay for lawyer is $5k; doctors, $3.5k; teachers $3k; accountant, $2.8k.
Even among engineers, pay differs. It is common for aerospace and chemical engineers to make $4k-5k/month, while mechanical, electrical and civil engineers struggle to hit $3k starting pay.
4) It is easy for a (NUS/NTU/SMU) graduate (take engineering course for example) to find a job here in Singapore???
Yes. Do you think that all the graduates are sitting at home shaking legs? It depends on how much you expect to be paid.
p.s. I just finished my a-levels and i’m full of doubts about what my future is going to be like T.T
Read up on the course outline, career prospects, and about the industries associated with the course.
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Source : www.salary.sg
By Employment Rate
(in brackets are the median salaries)1.NUS Bachelor Laws (LLB) (Hons) – 100.0% ($5,000)
2.NUS Bachelor of Medicine & Bachelor of Surgery (MBBS) – 100.0% ($4,000)
3.NTU (NIE) Arts (with Education) – 100.0% ($3,300)
4.NTU (NIE) Science (with Education) – 100.0% ($3,300)
5.NUS Bachelor of Dental Surgery – 100.0% ($3,000)
6.NUS Bachelor of Engineering (Civil Engineering) – 100.0% ($3,000)
7.NUS Bachelor of Science (Pharmacy) (Hons) – 98.9% ($3,300)
8.NUS Bachelor of Arts (Architecture) – 98.6% ($3,500)
9.SMU Accountancy (4-year programme) – Cum Laude and above – 98.6% ($3,225)
10.NUS Bachelor of Computing (Information Systems) – 98.1% ($3,400)
11.NTU Maritime Studies – 98.1% ($2,800)
12.NUS Bachelor of Computing (Electronic Commerce) – 97.2% ($3,000)
13.SMU Accountancy (4-year programme) – 96.9% ($2,900)
14.NUS Bachelor of Science (Project & Facilities Management) – 96.7% ($2,770)
15.NTU Accountancy (3-yr direct Honours programme) – 96.3% ($2,700)
16.SMU Information Systems Management (4-year programme) – Cum Laude and above – 96.0% ($4,200)
17.NUS Bachelor of Science (Nursing) – 95.6% ($2,750)
18.NUS Bachelor of Computing (Computer Engineering) – 95.5% ($3,100)
19.NUS Bachelor of Business Administration (Accountancy) – 95.5% ($2,700)
20.NUS Bachelor of Engineering (Computer Engineering) – 95.1% ($3,000)
21.SMU Information Systems Management (4-year programme) – 94.6% ($3,215)
22.NUS Bachelor of Business Administration (Accountancy) (Hons) – 94.4% ($3,000)
23.NUS Bachelor of Science (Real Estate) – 94.4% ($2,800)
24.NTU Computer Engineering – 94.0% ($3,250)
25.NUS Bachelor of Computing (Computer Science) – 94.0% ($3,000)
26.NTU Civil Engineering – 94.0% ($3,000)
27.SMU Economics (4-year programme) – Cum Laude and above – 92.0% ($3,500)
28.NUS Bachelor of Engineering (Materials Science & Engineering) – 91.7% ($3,000)
29.SMU Business Management (4-year programme) – Cum Laude and above – 91.5% ($3,500)
30.NTU Mathematical Sciences & Economics – 91.4% ($3,200)
31.NUS Bachelor of Engineering (Industrial & Systems Engineering) – 91.1% ($3,500)
32.NTU Information Engineering and Media – 90.6% ($3,200)
33.NUS Bachelor of Applied Science (Hons) – 90.3% ($2,800)
34.NUS Bachelor of Engineering (Mechanical Engineering) – 89.4% ($3,000)
35.NUS Bachelor of Business Administration (Hons) – 89.2% ($3,300)
36.NTU Aerospace Engineering – 88.9% ($3,500)
37.SMU Economics (4-year programme) – 88.9% ($3,200)
38.SMU Social Sciences (4-year programme) – 88.5% ($3,000)
39.NTU Chemical & Biomolecular Engineering – 88.4% ($3,200)
40.NUS Bachelor of Engineering (Electrical Engineering) – 88.4% ($3,100)
41.NUS Bachelor of Engineering (Environmental Engineering) – 88.4% ($3,000)
42.NUS Bachelor of Business Administration – 88.1% ($2,975)
43.NTU Physics & Applied Physics – 87.9% ($3,000)
44.NTU Chinese – 87.7% ($3,100)
45.SMU Social Sciences (4-year programme) – Cum Laude and above – 87.5% ($3,500)
46.NTU Business (3-yr direct Honours programme) – 87.4% ($3,000)
47.NUS Bachelor of Arts (Hons) – 87.3% ($3,200)
48.SMU Business Management (4-year programme) – 87.3% ($3,020)
49.NTU Electrical & Electronic Engineering – 87.2% ($3,100)
50.NTU Mechanical Engineering – 86.8% ($3,000)
51.NUS Bachelor of Science (Hons) – 85.3% ($3,000)
52.NTU Computer Science – 85.1% ($3,200)
53.NUS Bachelor of Social Sciences (Hons) – 84.9% ($3,000)
54.NTU Environmental Engineering – 84.8% ($3,000)
55.NTU Sociology – 84.5% ($3,150)
56.NTU Psychology – 84.4% ($3,200)
57.NUS Bachelor of Engineering (Chemical Engineering) – 83.9% ($3,184)
58.NTU Materials Engineering – 83.6% ($3,000)
59.NTU Mathematical Sciences – 82.1% ($3,100)
60.NUS Bachelor of Computing (Communications and Media) – 81.6% ($3,000)
61.NTU English Literature – 81.1% ($3,100)
62.NTU Communication Studies – 80.3% ($2,900)
63.NUS Bachelor of Engineering (Bioengineering) – 79.5% ($3,250)
64.NUS Bachelor of Engineering (Engineering Science) – 78.3% ($3,170)
65.NTU Economics – 76.9% ($3,150)
66.NTU Chemistry & Biological Chemistry – 75.1% ($2,950)
67.NUS Bachelor of Arts – 73.8% ($2,700)
68.NTU Bioengineering – 72.7% ($3,000)
69.NTU Biological Sciences – 71.8% ($3,000)
70.NUS Bachelor of Applied Science – 70.6% ($2,500)
71.NUS Bachelor of Science – 67.2% ($2,600)
72.NTU Art, Design & Media – 55.8% ($2,500)
By Average Monthly Salaries
(in brackets are the 75th-percentile salaries)1.NUS Bachelor Laws (LLB) (Hons) – $5,037 ($5,075)
2.SMU Information Systems Management (4-year programme) – Cum Laude and above – $4,294 ($4,783)
3.NUS Bachelor of Medicine & Bachelor of Surgery (MBBS) – $4,016 ($4,500)
4.SMU Economics (4-year programme) – Cum Laude and above – $3,999 ($4,275)
5.NUS Bachelor of Computing (Information Systems) – $3,911 ($4,000)
6.NUS Bachelor of Business Administration (Hons) – $3,871 ($4,200)
7.SMU Business Management (4-year programme) – Cum Laude and above – $3,777 ($4,100)
8.NUS Bachelor of Arts (Architecture) – $3,677 ($3,900)
9.SMU Accountancy (4-year programme) – Cum Laude and above – $3,671 ($4,125)
10.SMU Information Systems Management (4-year programme) – $3,637 ($4,150)
11.NTU Computer Engineering – $3,577 ($3,800)
12.SMU Economics (4-year programme) – $3,559 ($3,864)
13.NUS Bachelor of Engineering (Industrial & Systems Engineering) – $3,539 ($3,950)
14.NTU Aerospace Engineering – $3,489 ($3,900)
15.SMU Social Sciences (4-year programme) – Cum Laude and above – $3,450 ($3,700)
16.NTU Computer Science – $3,425 ($3,500)
17.NUS Bachelor of Computing (Computer Engineering) – $3,421 ($3,682)
18.NTU (NIE) Arts (with Education) – $3,407 ($3,500)
19.NUS Bachelor of Business Administration (Accountancy) (Hons) – $3,393 ($3,500)
20.NTU (NIE) Science (with Education) – $3,381 ($3,600)
21.NUS Bachelor of Computing (Computer Science) – $3,376 ($3,500)
22.SMU Business Management (4-year programme) – $3,369 ($3,800)
23.NUS Bachelor of Engineering (Computer Engineering) – $3,367 ($3,980)
24.NUS Bachelor of Science (Pharmacy) (Hons) – $3,346 ($3,500)
25.NUS Bachelor of Engineering (Bioengineering) – $3,334 ($3,800)
26.NUS Bachelor of Engineering (Electrical Engineering) – $3,327 ($3,600)
27.NUS Bachelor of Engineering (Chemical Engineering) – $3,286 ($3,515)
28.NTU Chemical & Biomolecular Engineering – $3,276 ($3,500)
29.SMU Accountancy (4-year programme) – $3,267 ($3,600)
30.NUS Bachelor of Engineering (Materials Science & Engineering) – $3,255 ($3,500)
31.NTU Business (3-yr direct Honours programme) – $3,245 ($3,600)
32.NTU Electrical & Electronic Engineering – $3,243 ($3,500)
33.NTU Mathematical Sciences & Economics – $3,226 ($3,500)
34.NUS Bachelor of Engineering (Environmental Engineering) – $3,215 ($3,300)
35.NTU Economics – $3,209 ($3,500)
36.NUS Bachelor of Engineering (Engineering Science) – $3,203 ($3,250)
37.NTU Information Engineering and Media – $3,196 ($3,500)
38.NUS Bachelor of Computing (Communications and Media) – $3,175 ($3,300)
39.NTU Mechanical Engineering – $3,152 ($3,385)
40.NUS Bachelor of Arts (Hons) – $3,151 ($3,500)
41.NUS Bachelor of Engineering (Mechanical Engineering) – $3,143 ($3,400)
42.NUS Bachelor of Business Administration – $3,141 ($3,500)
43.NUS Bachelor of Science (Hons) – $3,138 ($3,450)
44.NUS Bachelor of Dental Surgery – $3,136 ($3,400)
45.NUS Bachelor of Engineering (Civil Engineering) – $3,126 ($3,200)
46.NTU Psychology – $3,125 ($3,450)
47.NTU Mathematical Sciences – $3,125 ($3,200)
48.NTU Civil Engineering – $3,115 ($3,400)
49.NTU Bioengineering – $3,094 ($3,500)
50.NUS Bachelor of Social Sciences (Hons) – $3,088 ($3,350)
51.NUS Bachelor of Computing (Electronic Commerce) – $3,075 ($3,500)
52.NTU Sociology – $3,055 ($3,403)
53.NTU Materials Engineering – $3,047 ($3,300)
54.NTU Chinese – $3,044 ($3,300)
55.SMU Social Sciences (4-year programme) – $3,043 ($3,500)
56.NTU Environmental Engineering – $3,034 ($3,300)
57.NTU Physics & Applied Physics – $3,024 ($3,300)
58.NTU Biological Sciences – $2,981 ($3,250)
59.NTU English Literature – $2,976 ($3,200)
60.NTU Communication Studies – $2,960 ($3,200)
61.NTU Chemistry & Biological Chemistry – $2,956 ($3,200)
62.NTU Maritime Studies – $2,906 ($3,000)
63.NTU Accountancy (3-yr direct Honours programme) – $2,900 ($2,900)
64.NUS Bachelor of Applied Science (Hons) – $2,890 ($3,150)
65.NUS Bachelor of Science (Real Estate) – $2,888 ($3,000)
66.NUS Bachelor of Arts – $2,763 ($3,000)
67.NUS Bachelor of Science (Project & Facilities Management) – $2,760 ($3,000)
68.NUS Bachelor of Business Administration (Accountancy) – $2,759 ($2,800)
69.NUS Bachelor of Science – $2,741 ($2,900)
70.NUS Bachelor of Science (Nursing) – $2,718 ($2,800)
71.NUS Bachelor of Applied Science – $2,647 ($2,800)
72.NTU Art, Design & Media – $2,563 ($3,000) -
@ultimaonline - those are just statistics o.o i want to know if they are reliable and accurate....most of the times what these statistics show...is a completely different story when u go out to work in the society T.T so i would prefer singapore fresh grads to share their FIRST-hand personal experiences
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depends on type of co.
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if the figures are true, I would be cleaning tables with charlize.
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@Dumbmoo
Statistics tell one side of the story, annecdotal accounts tell another side. Both sides can be misleading. At this stage, you should be looking at the general statistics cos you're going to be one of thousands entering the job market when you graduate which will tell you your chances of landing a job that pays that amount. Not your chances of following in the footsteps of whichever high paying first person account you hear from.
In any case, by the time you graduate, the winds of economic change might have blown and all these statistics would have changed! The world's a very volatile place now. One invention and a whole department might be made redundant.
Instead of asking how much you want to earn, have you asked yourself what you would like to do? For e.g. If someone paid me $10,000 per month to listen to Justin Bieber songs all day long, I won't ever ever want that job.
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Originally posted by Dumbmoo:
1) Are Singapore universities (NUS/ NTU/ SMU) overrated???
2) Is a degree from (NUS/NTU/SMU) recognized by employers overseas – it would be great if anyone can share any of their experiences
3) I was looking at Singstats and based on what i see, the general starting pay of fresh university graduates (NUS/NTU/SMU) in Singapore is around 2.8k+—> is this true???
4) It is easy for a (NUS/NTU/SMU) graduate (take engineering course for example) to find a job here in Singapore???
p.s. I just finished my a-levels and i’m full of doubts about what my future is going to be like T.T
1) It depends on what you call overrated. Frankly speaking its quite a stupid question to me that doesnt warrant much thought because I couldn't afford anything other than local unis and so ranking is not what I looked at. (I believe in the merits of our education system in allowing social mobility since I benefited)
2) Yes.
3) Another question that cannot be answered. In case you wonder, its not hard to believe anyway. You expecting graduates to earn upwards of 10k/month ah?
4) Finding job is more than just your degree. Its about how you channel your available resources to look for opportunities and position yourself to grab them. If you are full of doubts now, its normal, but you should think hard.
Now.