H2 Biology or Physics???
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Originally posted by a mugger:
How about doing phy h2 if i am still planning to go to med?
What are the job prospects if you take med? -
Originally posted by Newcomer99:
I want to take up bio course in uni. Not really interested in engineering. So if I take H2 physics now and get into a bio course, will I be at a disadvantage with others that take H2 bio? I’m not confident that I will do well in H2 bio, with so much stuff to memorize.
Are you confident you'll do well in H2 Phys, if you're more interested in Bio Uni course than Phys?Bear in mind that A level = Intro to Uni level.
H2 Phys, H2 Chem, H2 Bio textbooks = Uni textbooks. Although there are A level textbooks, but most JCs will use Uni textbooks instead (kiasu lor).
You and Mugger both have the same thinking : Even though both of you wanna do Bio based course (eg. Medicine) in the Uni, but both of you fear that it'll be tougher to do well in H2 Bio compared to H2 Phys.
I think that's a misguided way to approach this (subject combi) decision. H2 Sciences is more or less 1st year Uni level material. It doesn't make sense to do H2 Phys when you wanna do Bio based course in the Uni (or vice-versa).
How can you expect to score an A for H2 Phys if you don't have the interest in doing a Phys based Uni course? A levels is not like O levels in which you can just mug your way through without having a personal interest (ie. future Uni course) in the subject, and expect to score an A grade.
FYI, in many JCs, the % of students scoring distinction in the A levels is even higher for H2 Bio, compared to H2 Phys.
And Mugger, you say you're 100% sure you wanna do Medicine, yet fear you can't score A for H2 Bio. The fundamental basis for Medicine is H2 Chem + H2 Bio. If you can't confidently score A for both H2 Bio and H2 Chem, there's no way you can pass a Medicine course (whose exams' memorization requirements is a thousand times more demanding than the memorization requirements of H2 Bio).
Do consider carefully. Don't choose the wrong subject for the wrong reason.
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Originally posted by Newcomer99:
What are the job prospects if you take med?
2012 Graduate Employment Results
for the 2011 graduating cohort of NUS, NTU and SMUSource : www.salary.sg
By Employment Rate
(in brackets are the median salaries)1.NUS Bachelor Laws (LLB) (Hons) – 100.0% ($5,000)
2.NUS Bachelor of Medicine & Bachelor of Surgery (MBBS) – 100.0% ($4,000)
3.NTU (NIE) Arts (with Education) – 100.0% ($3,300)
4.NTU (NIE) Science (with Education) – 100.0% ($3,300)
5.NUS Bachelor of Dental Surgery – 100.0% ($3,000)
6.NUS Bachelor of Engineering (Civil Engineering) – 100.0% ($3,000)
7.NUS Bachelor of Science (Pharmacy) (Hons) – 98.9% ($3,300)
8.NUS Bachelor of Arts (Architecture) – 98.6% ($3,500)
9.SMU Accountancy (4-year programme) – Cum Laude and above – 98.6% ($3,225)
10.NUS Bachelor of Computing (Information Systems) – 98.1% ($3,400)
11.NTU Maritime Studies – 98.1% ($2,800)
12.NUS Bachelor of Computing (Electronic Commerce) – 97.2% ($3,000)
13.SMU Accountancy (4-year programme) – 96.9% ($2,900)
14.NUS Bachelor of Science (Project & Facilities Management) – 96.7% ($2,770)
15.NTU Accountancy (3-yr direct Honours programme) – 96.3% ($2,700)
16.SMU Information Systems Management (4-year programme) – Cum Laude and above – 96.0% ($4,200)
17.NUS Bachelor of Science (Nursing) – 95.6% ($2,750)
18.NUS Bachelor of Computing (Computer Engineering) – 95.5% ($3,100)
19.NUS Bachelor of Business Administration (Accountancy) – 95.5% ($2,700)
20.NUS Bachelor of Engineering (Computer Engineering) – 95.1% ($3,000)
21.SMU Information Systems Management (4-year programme) – 94.6% ($3,215)
22.NUS Bachelor of Business Administration (Accountancy) (Hons) – 94.4% ($3,000)
23.NUS Bachelor of Science (Real Estate) – 94.4% ($2,800)
24.NTU Computer Engineering – 94.0% ($3,250)
25.NUS Bachelor of Computing (Computer Science) – 94.0% ($3,000)
26.NTU Civil Engineering – 94.0% ($3,000)
27.SMU Economics (4-year programme) – Cum Laude and above – 92.0% ($3,500)
28.NUS Bachelor of Engineering (Materials Science & Engineering) – 91.7% ($3,000)
29.SMU Business Management (4-year programme) – Cum Laude and above – 91.5% ($3,500)
30.NTU Mathematical Sciences & Economics – 91.4% ($3,200)
31.NUS Bachelor of Engineering (Industrial & Systems Engineering) – 91.1% ($3,500)
32.NTU Information Engineering and Media – 90.6% ($3,200)
33.NUS Bachelor of Applied Science (Hons) – 90.3% ($2,800)
34.NUS Bachelor of Engineering (Mechanical Engineering) – 89.4% ($3,000)
35.NUS Bachelor of Business Administration (Hons) – 89.2% ($3,300)
36.NTU Aerospace Engineering – 88.9% ($3,500)
37.SMU Economics (4-year programme) – 88.9% ($3,200)
38.SMU Social Sciences (4-year programme) – 88.5% ($3,000)
39.NTU Chemical & Biomolecular Engineering – 88.4% ($3,200)
40.NUS Bachelor of Engineering (Electrical Engineering) – 88.4% ($3,100)
41.NUS Bachelor of Engineering (Environmental Engineering) – 88.4% ($3,000)
42.NUS Bachelor of Business Administration – 88.1% ($2,975)
43.NTU Physics & Applied Physics – 87.9% ($3,000)
44.NTU Chinese – 87.7% ($3,100)
45.SMU Social Sciences (4-year programme) – Cum Laude and above – 87.5% ($3,500)
46.NTU Business (3-yr direct Honours programme) – 87.4% ($3,000)
47.NUS Bachelor of Arts (Hons) – 87.3% ($3,200)
48.SMU Business Management (4-year programme) – 87.3% ($3,020)
49.NTU Electrical & Electronic Engineering – 87.2% ($3,100)
50.NTU Mechanical Engineering – 86.8% ($3,000)
51.NUS Bachelor of Science (Hons) – 85.3% ($3,000)
52.NTU Computer Science – 85.1% ($3,200)
53.NUS Bachelor of Social Sciences (Hons) – 84.9% ($3,000)
54.NTU Environmental Engineering – 84.8% ($3,000)
55.NTU Sociology – 84.5% ($3,150)
56.NTU Psychology – 84.4% ($3,200)
57.NUS Bachelor of Engineering (Chemical Engineering) – 83.9% ($3,184)
58.NTU Materials Engineering – 83.6% ($3,000)
59.NTU Mathematical Sciences – 82.1% ($3,100)
60.NUS Bachelor of Computing (Communications and Media) – 81.6% ($3,000)
61.NTU English Literature – 81.1% ($3,100)
62.NTU Communication Studies – 80.3% ($2,900)
63.NUS Bachelor of Engineering (Bioengineering) – 79.5% ($3,250)
64.NUS Bachelor of Engineering (Engineering Science) – 78.3% ($3,170)
65.NTU Economics – 76.9% ($3,150)
66.NTU Chemistry & Biological Chemistry – 75.1% ($2,950)
67.NUS Bachelor of Arts – 73.8% ($2,700)
68.NTU Bioengineering – 72.7% ($3,000)
69.NTU Biological Sciences – 71.8% ($3,000)
70.NUS Bachelor of Applied Science – 70.6% ($2,500)
71.NUS Bachelor of Science – 67.2% ($2,600)
72.NTU Art, Design & Media – 55.8% ($2,500)
By Average Monthly Salaries
(in brackets are the 75th-percentile salaries)1.NUS Bachelor Laws (LLB) (Hons) – $5,037 ($5,075)
2.SMU Information Systems Management (4-year programme) – Cum Laude and above – $4,294 ($4,783)
3.NUS Bachelor of Medicine & Bachelor of Surgery (MBBS) – $4,016 ($4,500)
4.SMU Economics (4-year programme) – Cum Laude and above – $3,999 ($4,275)
5.NUS Bachelor of Computing (Information Systems) – $3,911 ($4,000)
6.NUS Bachelor of Business Administration (Hons) – $3,871 ($4,200)
7.SMU Business Management (4-year programme) – Cum Laude and above – $3,777 ($4,100)
8.NUS Bachelor of Arts (Architecture) – $3,677 ($3,900)
9.SMU Accountancy (4-year programme) – Cum Laude and above – $3,671 ($4,125)
10.SMU Information Systems Management (4-year programme) – $3,637 ($4,150)
11.NTU Computer Engineering – $3,577 ($3,800)
12.SMU Economics (4-year programme) – $3,559 ($3,864)
13.NUS Bachelor of Engineering (Industrial & Systems Engineering) – $3,539 ($3,950)
14.NTU Aerospace Engineering – $3,489 ($3,900)
15.SMU Social Sciences (4-year programme) – Cum Laude and above – $3,450 ($3,700)
16.NTU Computer Science – $3,425 ($3,500)
17.NUS Bachelor of Computing (Computer Engineering) – $3,421 ($3,682)
18.NTU (NIE) Arts (with Education) – $3,407 ($3,500)
19.NUS Bachelor of Business Administration (Accountancy) (Hons) – $3,393 ($3,500)
20.NTU (NIE) Science (with Education) – $3,381 ($3,600)
21.NUS Bachelor of Computing (Computer Science) – $3,376 ($3,500)
22.SMU Business Management (4-year programme) – $3,369 ($3,800)
23.NUS Bachelor of Engineering (Computer Engineering) – $3,367 ($3,980)
24.NUS Bachelor of Science (Pharmacy) (Hons) – $3,346 ($3,500)
25.NUS Bachelor of Engineering (Bioengineering) – $3,334 ($3,800)
26.NUS Bachelor of Engineering (Electrical Engineering) – $3,327 ($3,600)
27.NUS Bachelor of Engineering (Chemical Engineering) – $3,286 ($3,515)
28.NTU Chemical & Biomolecular Engineering – $3,276 ($3,500)
29.SMU Accountancy (4-year programme) – $3,267 ($3,600)
30.NUS Bachelor of Engineering (Materials Science & Engineering) – $3,255 ($3,500)
31.NTU Business (3-yr direct Honours programme) – $3,245 ($3,600)
32.NTU Electrical & Electronic Engineering – $3,243 ($3,500)
33.NTU Mathematical Sciences & Economics – $3,226 ($3,500)
34.NUS Bachelor of Engineering (Environmental Engineering) – $3,215 ($3,300)
35.NTU Economics – $3,209 ($3,500)
36.NUS Bachelor of Engineering (Engineering Science) – $3,203 ($3,250)
37.NTU Information Engineering and Media – $3,196 ($3,500)
38.NUS Bachelor of Computing (Communications and Media) – $3,175 ($3,300)
39.NTU Mechanical Engineering – $3,152 ($3,385)
40.NUS Bachelor of Arts (Hons) – $3,151 ($3,500)
41.NUS Bachelor of Engineering (Mechanical Engineering) – $3,143 ($3,400)
42.NUS Bachelor of Business Administration – $3,141 ($3,500)
43.NUS Bachelor of Science (Hons) – $3,138 ($3,450)
44.NUS Bachelor of Dental Surgery – $3,136 ($3,400)
45.NUS Bachelor of Engineering (Civil Engineering) – $3,126 ($3,200)
46.NTU Psychology – $3,125 ($3,450)
47.NTU Mathematical Sciences – $3,125 ($3,200)
48.NTU Civil Engineering – $3,115 ($3,400)
49.NTU Bioengineering – $3,094 ($3,500)
50.NUS Bachelor of Social Sciences (Hons) – $3,088 ($3,350)
51.NUS Bachelor of Computing (Electronic Commerce) – $3,075 ($3,500)
52.NTU Sociology – $3,055 ($3,403)
53.NTU Materials Engineering – $3,047 ($3,300)
54.NTU Chinese – $3,044 ($3,300)
55.SMU Social Sciences (4-year programme) – $3,043 ($3,500)
56.NTU Environmental Engineering – $3,034 ($3,300)
57.NTU Physics & Applied Physics – $3,024 ($3,300)
58.NTU Biological Sciences – $2,981 ($3,250)
59.NTU English Literature – $2,976 ($3,200)
60.NTU Communication Studies – $2,960 ($3,200)
61.NTU Chemistry & Biological Chemistry – $2,956 ($3,200)
62.NTU Maritime Studies – $2,906 ($3,000)
63.NTU Accountancy (3-yr direct Honours programme) – $2,900 ($2,900)
64.NUS Bachelor of Applied Science (Hons) – $2,890 ($3,150)
65.NUS Bachelor of Science (Real Estate) – $2,888 ($3,000)
66.NUS Bachelor of Arts – $2,763 ($3,000)
67.NUS Bachelor of Science (Project & Facilities Management) – $2,760 ($3,000)
68.NUS Bachelor of Business Administration (Accountancy) – $2,759 ($2,800)
69.NUS Bachelor of Science – $2,741 ($2,900)
70.NUS Bachelor of Science (Nursing) – $2,718 ($2,800)
71.NUS Bachelor of Applied Science – $2,647 ($2,800)
72.NTU Art, Design & Media – $2,563 ($3,000) -
i think i will speak to a bio teacher first before deciding on getting it as part of my H2.
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Originally posted by UltimaOnline:
Are you confident you'll do well in H2 Phys, if you're more interested in Bio Uni course than Phys?Bear in mind that A level = Intro to Uni level.
H2 Phys, H2 Chem, H2 Bio textbooks = Uni textbooks. Although there are A level textbooks, but most JCs will use Uni textbooks instead (kiasu lor).
You and Mugger both have the same thinking : Even though both of you wanna do Bio based course (eg. Medicine) in the Uni, but both of you fear that it'll be tougher to do well in H2 Bio compared to H2 Phys.
I think that's a misguided way to approach this (subject combi) decision. H2 Sciences is more or less 1st year Uni level material. It doesn't make sense to do H2 Phys when you wanna do Bio based course in the Uni (or vice-versa).
How can you expect to score an A for H2 Phys if you don't have the interest in doing a Phys based Uni course? A levels is not like O levels in which you can just mug your way through without having a personal interest (ie. future Uni course) in the subject, and expect to score an A grade.
FYI, in many JCs, the % of students scoring distinction in the A levels is even higher for H2 Bio, compared to H2 Phys.
And Mugger, you say you're 100% sure you wanna do Medicine, yet fear you can't score A for H2 Bio. The fundamental basis for Medicine is H2 Chem + H2 Bio. If you can't confidently score A for both H2 Bio and H2 Chem, there's no way you can pass a Medicine course (whose exams' memorization requirements is a thousand times more demanding than the memorization requirements of H2 Bio).
Do consider carefully. Don't choose the wrong subject for the wrong reason.
I actually feel more confident in doing well for phy than for bio. But I do think that it makes more sense for me to take bio since I’m planning to take bio course in uni. I’ll consider what you said carefully, and thanks a lot for helping me -
I would also like to know, how much more content (memorization requirements) does alevel bio have compared to olevel bio?
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Originally posted by Newcomer99:
I would also like to know, how much more content (memorization requirements) does alevel bio have compared to olevel bio?
Approximately :If O level Bio's memorization requirements = Level 1,
A level H2 Physics' memorization requirements = Level 3-4,
A level H2 Chemistry's memorization requirements = Level 3-4,
A level H2 Biology memorization requirements = Level 8-10,
University Science & Engineering Courses (Bachelor's Degree) = Level 50,
University Medicine (MD or MBBS) = Level 100.
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H2 Bio is about 25 more times to mug as compared to O levels, do be prepared
Who says less popular sub less tutors, for my JC, Bio and Physics almost same no of tutors but Bio less classes
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It makes perfect 0 sense if you want to take bio course (esp med) but want to skip H2 Bio, you will be forced to take LSM1003 (Bio bridging module) = mug H2 Bio in 3 months, where we now have the luxury of 2 years
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Originally posted by SBS n SMRT:
H2 Bio is about 25 more times to mug as compared to O levels, do be prepared
Who says less popular sub less tutors, for my JC, Bio and Physics almost same no of tutors but Bio less classes
Yeah you're right, I just realised that there are as many ppl who want to take phy as those who want to take bio. -
Anyway I've decided to choose bio. Thanks to everyone here who have given me advices
