MM Lee's wife passed away
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Originally posted by fudgester:
Spoken like a true fascist.
It takes one to presume another to be one.
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Looking at the posts in this thread, I'm now even more convinced that when the opposition takes over Singapore, there will only be more of the same, but with more chaos as the opposition-ists tries to destroy everything considered "PAP", the good, the bad, and all (read: virtually everything in Singapore). Look at this thread. Is this an example of intelligent, civil debate that we truly need, or is this more of the very same mudslinging the opposition-ists are so quick to accuse those in the PAP of? I said it once elsewhere here, and I will say it again: hogwash is not a replacement for hogwash, even if it's of a different variety and from a different place.
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Where's you-know-who?
Still in SGH?
Vultures circling the sky waiting for their next carrion.
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Well......
I have mixed feelings when I watch the media coverage, TV segments, etc about her.....
Something makes me have slight discomfort.......
I think the society, or at least the media.......has just simply pigeon-holed her into "MM Lee wife" or as a "PM Lee mother"
This is making me a little worried......or maybe "worried" is not the right word.....I dont know how to describe it......just mixed feeling....
In my opinion, it may send the wrong message.....
A woman is a person.
It is outdated and unsuitable in the modern era to pigeon-hole a woman into "someone's wife".......or "someone's mom"
I think many feminists would understand what I'm talking about here.....
But in the same time, I understand that she is 89 years old, she is a product of her time, the time when women mostly do not enter the workforce, and mostly be identified as someone's wife, or someone's mom, and is supposed to devote her life to her family and thats that, thats the life for a woman.
So....
I dont know......I just feel awkward....
Media coverage, newspaper, TV, talk to her as a supportive wife.....talk about the love story of the young couple....etc.......
So this is the "definition" of her....
I'm just thinking, to a certain extent, this is unfair and unjust.
Because she is a person, but even in her death, her obituaries, and the way she is remembered, is how she is such a "good supporting person" for another person, the male, the husband.
Is this really life for a person who is a woman in this world?
This makes me uneasy.
I wish the media would stop or at least reduce such outdated archaic depiction of "a good woman" , and maybe talk more and emphasize about other aspects, even things such as her involvement in the charities, or arts, or culture, or health promotion, or any other things, would be more suitable and preferable, otherwise I humbly and seriously think that those TV programs would negatively effect emancipation at a subtle level.
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Originally posted by walesa:
Nice attempt at perpetuating the art of shameless puppetry."Walesa's posts in the sgforums.com will be closely monitored now and when there are sufficient evidence, it will be brought to the court's attention".
"Walesa is free to comment and make any statement but once the comment and statement that can be legally enforced, legal action will be initiated".
Dreaming ....... or soon to happen ?
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Originally posted by Devil7030:
"Walesa's posts in the sgforums.com will be closely monitored now and when there are sufficient evidence, it will be brought to the court's attention".
"Walesa is free to comment and make any statement but once the comment and statement that can be legally enforced, legal action will be initiated".
Dreaming ....... or soon to happen ?
This is the kind of fear mongering we don't need.
Anyone is free to express their opinion, or their feelings whatever they may be.
Only statements that could be regarded as incitement to voilence or disrupting to the peace and harmony in our society would be acted upon.
You won't be put into jail if you hate LKY and family. You hate them, thats your problem.
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Originally posted by Devil7030:
"Walesa's posts in the sgforums.com will be closely monitored now and when there are sufficient evidence, it will be brought to the court's attention".
"Walesa is free to comment and make any statement but once the comment and statement that can be legally enforced, legal action will be initiated".
Dreaming ....... or soon to happen ?
I am truly petrified and quaking in my pants now...
Come back with something more novel - you're quite pathetic at perpetuating the art of puppetry, actually.
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Originally posted by Honeybunz:
Ignore Asromanista2001 lah. He's one funny little guy. His answers in the whole sgforums always so funny one.
For public attending her wake on mon and tue right? -
I've never even heard of this woman before, but RIP.
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I wonder any live converage for the burial or not.
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hmm I douth there will be a live converage for the burial since she was a quiet girl behind lky and she don;t always like to be in limelight in the public thus I think they want to respect her and make it a private affair?
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Originally posted by SGBoYxxx:
hmm I douth there will be a live converage for the burial since she was a quiet girl behind lky and she don;t always like to be in limelight in the public thus I think they want to respect her and make it a private affair?
ok...but I am sure those who unable to attend the wake mayby can catch it on live. -
Originally posted by Veggie Bao:
Well......
I have mixed feelings when I watch the media coverage, TV segments, etc about her.....
Something makes me have slight discomfort.......
I think the society, or at least the media.......has just simply pigeon-holed her into "MM Lee wife" or as a "PM Lee mother"
This is making me a little worried......or maybe "worried" is not the right word.....I dont know how to describe it......just mixed feeling....
In my opinion, it may send the wrong message.....
A woman is a person.
It is outdated and unsuitable in the modern era to pigeon-hole a woman into "someone's wife".......or "someone's mom"
I think many feminists would understand what I'm talking about here.....
But in the same time, I understand that she is 89 years old, she is a product of her time, the time when women mostly do not enter the workforce, and mostly be identified as someone's wife, or someone's mom, and is supposed to devote her life to her family and thats that, thats the life for a woman.
So....
I dont know......I just feel awkward....
Media coverage, newspaper, TV, talk to her as a supportive wife.....talk about the love story of the young couple....etc.......
So this is the "definition" of her....
I'm just thinking, to a certain extent, this is unfair and unjust.
Because she is a person, but even in her death, her obituaries, and the way she is remembered, is how she is such a "good supporting person" for another person, the male, the husband.
Is this really life for a person who is a woman in this world?
This makes me uneasy.
I wish the media would stop or at least reduce such outdated archaic depiction of "a good woman" , and maybe talk more and emphasize about other aspects, even things such as her involvement in the charities, or arts, or culture, or health promotion, or any other things, would be more suitable and preferable, otherwise I humbly and seriously think that those TV programs would negatively effect emancipation at a subtle level.
well, I think she chose to take a back seat and let her husband run the show. but that's not to say, she has not contributed.
Personally, I do not know her, but I do believe she did her share of good works but she always went about it quietly.And that's good for her.
irregardless of how the media paints her, no one will really know her like her family or feel the pain like her family.
Goodbye, Mrs Lee.
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Originally posted by iceFatboy:
well, I think she chose to take a back seat and let her husband run the show. but that's not to say, she has not contributed.
Personally, I do not know her, but I do believe she did her share of good works but she always went about it quietly.And that's good for her.
irregardless of how the media paints her, no one will really know her like her family or feel the pain like her family.
Goodbye, Mrs Lee.
for all we know, LKY was just a puppet...............the old hag was the puppet-master..........
i bet the old man married the old hag becoz her family can help his political career.................
### by the way, the govt wil pay for the funeral wake and everything, right ?
cheapskate leh............some more they wil keep all the ''Pek Kim'' right ?
waaah...........mommy conk off.............sonny still can make money leh...............
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what is pek kim?? and howcome no holiday leh?? Empress Dowager passed away lor, a big occasion, why no holiday???
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alamak................pek kim = money given to the grieving family by people that go to the wake lah.............
waaah...........i wonder how much money the Lees wil make from all the pek kim leh......................
maybe all the makan and drinks also sponsored by the undertakers ???
maybe LHL is now hoping LKY will conk off soon so he can make another fast buck.................plus the old monkey will be off his back...............
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Originally posted by likeyou:
I wonder any live converage for the burial or not.
live coverage of the burial ......................
available on PAY-PER-VIEW..................
no such thing as free............okay..................
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Originally posted by Asromanista2001:
for all we know, LKY was just a puppet...............the old hag was the puppet-master..........
i bet the old man married the old hag becoz her family can help his political career.................
### by the way, the govt wil pay for the funeral wake and everything, right ?
cheapskate leh............some more they wil keep all the ''Pek Kim'' right ?
waaah...........mommy conk off.............sonny still can make money leh...............
They dont need pek kim lui.
They are already very very rich.
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opposition should know the weakess point to hit the whites. floor traps. there's a policy but many loopholes and the enforces at ground zero not working hard. singapore shoreline is very thin in fact not like big countries so difficult to patrol why still so many illegal aliens entering? i just go sungei buloh thread inland and hit the shore line i see so many areas i can enter singapore.
if really no oppo can make it i think i will void my votes. the decrease in votes really will show them what displeased people can do.
media busy got so many hot news to report. the show now is for the living to see 1
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Originally posted by likeyou:
They dont need pek kim lui.
They are already very very rich.
If I'm not wrong, the donation will go to the NNI Endowment Fund. Not to anyone Lee Family member. -
Originally posted by Asromanista2001:
alamak................pek kim = money given to the grieving family by people that go to the wake lah.............
waaah...........i wonder how much money the Lees wil make from all the pek kim leh......................
maybe all the makan and drinks also sponsored by the undertakers ???
maybe LHL is now hoping LKY will conk off soon so he can make another fast buck.................plus the old monkey will be off his back...............
Making another accusation without checking at the fact or simply refuse to check and like to accuse for the sake of accusing lor.
All "pek Kims" are donated to the NNI endownment fund lor.
Please allow the dead to rest in peace, ok ? Thanks.
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So fake, how many of you or your children has been forced or coerced by company, bosses or schools to attend the wake?
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Originally posted by dotaro:
So fake, how many of you or your children has been forced or coerced by company, bosses or schools to attend the wake?
Granted, it's a poor imitation of the real deal. Kim Il Sung's death ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbM8Iu-547k) was a real tragedy. -
i have a bad feeling abt MM Lee
remember the late president Ong Teng Chong?
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Originally posted by Veggie Bao:
Well......
I have mixed feelings when I watch the media coverage, TV segments, etc about her.....
Something makes me have slight discomfort.......
I think the society, or at least the media.......has just simply pigeon-holed her into "MM Lee wife" or as a "PM Lee mother"
This is making me a little worried......or maybe "worried" is not the right word.....I dont know how to describe it......just mixed feeling....
In my opinion, it may send the wrong message.....
A woman is a person.
It is outdated and unsuitable in the modern era to pigeon-hole a woman into "someone's wife".......or "someone's mom"
I think many feminists would understand what I'm talking about here.....
But in the same time, I understand that she is 89 years old, she is a product of her time, the time when women mostly do not enter the workforce, and mostly be identified as someone's wife, or someone's mom, and is supposed to devote her life to her family and thats that, thats the life for a woman.
So....
I dont know......I just feel awkward....
Media coverage, newspaper, TV, talk to her as a supportive wife.....talk about the love story of the young couple....etc.......
So this is the "definition" of her....
I'm just thinking, to a certain extent, this is unfair and unjust.
Because she is a person, but even in her death, her obituaries, and the way she is remembered, is how she is such a "good supporting person" for another person, the male, the husband.
Is this really life for a person who is a woman in this world?
This makes me uneasy.
I wish the media would stop or at least reduce such outdated archaic depiction of "a good woman" , and maybe talk more and emphasize about other aspects, even things such as her involvement in the charities, or arts, or culture, or health promotion, or any other things, would be more suitable and preferable, otherwise I humbly and seriously think that those TV programs would negatively effect emancipation at a subtle level.
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